Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E473E6F9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71853 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2013 07:14:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 71689 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2013 07:14:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 71657 invoked by uid 99); 6 Feb 2013 07:14:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:14:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of Viktor.Jevdokimov@adform.com designates 86.58.139.11 as permitted sender) Received: from [86.58.139.11] (HELO mail1.adform.com) (86.58.139.11) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:14:01 +0000 Received: from dkexc002.adform.com ([10.0.19.5]) by mail1.adform.com with XWall v3.47 ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:13:40 +0200 Received: from DKEXC001.adform.com (10.0.8.3) by DKEXC002.adform.com (10.0.19.5) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:13:39 +0200 Received: from DKEXC002.adform.com ([fe80::a869:727c:285c:fd3]) by DKEXC001.adform.com ([fe80::6d0c:ccd8:b690:688a%18]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:13:39 +0200 From: Viktor Jevdokimov To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" Subject: RE: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? Thread-Topic: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? Thread-Index: AQHOA7SOHekbVTLP3kCNdfsGqZZBOphrQgaAgABv/YCAACU+AIAAk8fQ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: <2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22A@DKEXC002.adform.com> References: <18f701ce03ed$7ac22780$70467680$@metricshub.com> <1980693836-1360110173-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1292089836-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry> In-Reply-To: <1980693836-1360110173-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1292089836-@b26.c3.bise6.blackberry> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.0.95] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22ADKEXC002adformcom_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-XWALL-BCKS: auto X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --_005_2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22ADKEXC002adformcom_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22ADKEXC002adformcom_" --_000_2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22ADKEXC002adformcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would prefer Oracle to own an Azul's Zing JVM over any other (GC) to prov= ide it for free for anyone :) Best regards / Pagarbiai Viktor Jevdokimov Senior Developer Email: Viktor.Jevdokimov@adform.com Phone: +370 5 212 3063, Fax +370 5 261 0453 J. Jasinskio 16C, LT-01112 Vilnius, Lithuania Follow us on Twitter: @adforminsider Take a ride with Adform's Rich Media Suite [Adform News] [Adform awarded the Best Employer 2012] Disclaimer: The information contained in this message and attachments is in= tended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee and may be c= onfidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are reminded that t= he information remains the property of the sender. You must not use, disclo= se, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If you have received th= is message in error, please contact the sender immediately and irrevocably = delete this message and any copies. From: jeffpk@gmail.com [mailto:jeffpk@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 02:23 To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? Oracle now owns the sun hotspot team, which is inarguably the highest power= ed java vm team in the world. Its still really the epicenter of all java vm= development. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: "Ilya Grebnov" > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:09:33 -0800 To: > ReplyTo: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: RE: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? Also, what is particular reason to use Oracle JDK over Open JDK? Sorry, I c= ould not find this information online. Thanks, Ilya From: Michael Kjellman [mailto:mkjellman@barracuda.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:29 AM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? There have been tons of threads/convos on this. In the early days of Java 7 it was pretty unstable and there was pretty muc= h no convincing reason to use Java 7 over Java 6. Now that Java 7 has stabilized and Java 6 is EOL it's a reasonable decision= to use Java 7 and we do it in production with no issues to speak of. That being said there was one potential situation we've seen as a community= where bootstrapping new node was using 3x more CPU and getting significant= ly less throughput. However, reproducing this consistently never happened A= FAIK. I think until more people use Java 7 in production and prove it doesn't cau= se any additional bugs/performance issues Datastax will update their docs. = Until now I'd say it's a safe bet to use Java 7 with Vanilla C* 1.2.1. I ho= pe this helps! Best, Michael From: Baron Schwartz > Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" > Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:21 AM To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" > Subject: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6? The Datastax docs repeatedly say (e.g. http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.2/ins= tall/install_jre) that Java 7 is not recommended, but they don't say why. I= t would be helpful to know this. Does anyone know? The same documentation is referenced from the Cassandra wiki, for example, = http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/GettingStarted - Baron --_000_2C85E14562B39345BCCAD90B8E7955C923A22ADKEXC002adformcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would prefer Oracle to = own an Azul’s Zing JVM over any other (GC) to provide it for free for= anyone :)

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Best regards / Pagarbiai
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From: jeffpk@g= mail.com [mailto:jeffpk@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 02:23
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6?

 

Oracle now owns the sun hotspot team, which is inarg= uably the highest powered java vm team in the world. Its still really the e= picenter of all java vm development.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry<= /p>

From: "Ilya Grebnov" <ilya@metricshub.com>

Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:09:33 -0800

Subject: RE: Why do Datastax docs recommend J= ava 6?

 

Also, what is particular = reason to use Oracle JDK over Open JDK? Sorry, I could not find this inform= ation online.

 <= /p>

Thanks,

Ilya

From: Michael = Kjellman [mailto:mkjellman@barra= cuda.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:29 AM
To: user@cassandra.apac= he.org
Subject: Re: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6?

 

There have been tons of thr= eads/convos on this.

 

In the early days of Java 7= it was pretty unstable and there was pretty much no convincing reason to u= se Java 7 over Java 6.

 

Now that Java 7 has stabili= zed and Java 6 is EOL it's a reasonable decision to use Java 7 and we do it= in production with no issues to speak of.

 

That being said there was o= ne potential situation we've seen as a community where bootstrapping new no= de was using 3x more CPU and getting significantly less throughput. However, reproducing this consistently never happened AFAIK.

 

I think until more people u= se Java 7 in production and prove it doesn't cause any additional bugs/perf= ormance issues Datastax will update their docs. Until now I'd say it's a safe bet to use Java 7 with Vanilla C* 1.2.1. I hope this h= elps!

 

Best,

Michael

 

From: Baron Schwartz <baron@xaprb.com>
Reply-To: "user@ca= ssandra.apache.org" <user@cassandra.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:21 AM
To: "user@cassandr= a.apache.org" <use= r@cassandra.apache.org>
Subject: Why do Datastax docs recommend Java 6?

 

The Datastax docs repeatedl= y say (e.g. http://www= .datastax.com/docs/1.2/install/install_jre) that Java 7 is not recommen= ded, but they don't say why. It would be helpful to know this. Does anyone = know?

 

The same documentation is r= eferenced from the Cassandra wiki, for example, http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/Gett= ingStarted

 

- Baron

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