Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8A85D697 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46947 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2013 23:52:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 46918 invoked by uid 500); 21 Feb 2013 23:52:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 46910 invoked by uid 99); 21 Feb 2013 23:52:43 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:52:43 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.207.230.237] (HELO ssl.humbaba.net) (74.207.230.237) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:52:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (unknown [74.3.120.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ssl.humbaba.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4191EEF71; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:52:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Cassandra with SAN From: David Schairer In-Reply-To: <57C7C3CBDCB04F45A57AEC4CB21C0CCD1DB353A3@mbx024-e1-nj-6.exch024.domain.local> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:52:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <00293E5E-5A3A-4846-B9A8-BD1EBD468324@humbaba.net> References: <57C7C3CBDCB04F45A57AEC4CB21C0CCD1DB3537C@mbx024-e1-nj-6.exch024.domain.local> <57C7C3CBDCB04F45A57AEC4CB21C0CCD1DB353A3@mbx024-e1-nj-6.exch024.domain.local> To: user@cassandra.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org "Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?" It will work, but you'd have a distributed database running on a single = point of failure storage fabric, thus destroying much of your benefits, = unless you have enough discrete SAN units that you treat them as racks = in your cassandra topology to ensure that you have data replicated = across redundant SAN shelves|controllers|etc. You also would end up with redundancy at cross purposes in that the SAN = will be striping data that Cassandra is already distributing = efficiently. If the SAN is free and unused, it'll be fine as a Cassandra test = platform. But I wouldn't spend a penny on SAN hardware instead of a = much larger distributed cluster with commodity hardware. Derive your = redundancy and performance from lots of hardware in lots of places, not = expensive hardware in one place. =20 --DRS On Feb 21, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kanwar Sangha wrote: > Ok. What would be the drawbacks J > =20 > From: Michael Kjellman [mailto:mkjellman@barracuda.com]=20 > Sent: 21 February 2013 17:12 > To: user@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: Cassandra with SAN > =20 > No, this is a really really bad idea and C* was not designed for this, = in fact, it was designed so you don't need to have a large expensive = SAN. > =20 > Don't be tempted by the shiny expensive SAN. :) > =20 > If money is no object instead throw SSD's in your nodes and run 10G = between racks > =20 > From: Kanwar Sangha > Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" > Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:56 PM > To: "user@cassandra.apache.org" > Subject: Cassandra with SAN > =20 > Hi =96 Is it a good idea to use Cassandra with SAN ? Say a SAN which = provides me 8 Petabytes of storage. Would I not be I/O bound = irrespective of the no of Cassandra machines and scaling by adding > machines won=92t help ? > =20 > Thanks > Kanwar > =20 > ----------------------------------=20 > Copy, by Barracuda, helps you store, protect, and share all your = amazing things. Start today: www.copy.com. > =AD=AD =20