Do you mean the ring does not change until the move has completed?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Edward Capriolo <> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Loy <> wrote:
Well, by issuing a nodetool move when a node is under high load, you basically make that node unresponsive. That's fine, but a nodetool move on one node also means that that node's replica data needs to move around the ring and possibly some replica data from the next (or previous) node in the ring. So how does this affect other nodes wrt RF and quorum? Will quorum fail until the replicas have moved also?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Dan Hendry <> wrote:

Moving nodes does not result in downtime provide you use proper replication factors and read/write consistencies. The typical recommendation is RF=3 and QUORUM reads/writes.




From: Paul Loy []
Sent: July-04-11 5:59
Subject: Re: How to scale Cassandra?


That's basically how I understand it.

However, I think it gets better with larger clusters as the proportion of the ring you move around at any time is much lower.

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Subscriber <> wrote:

Hi there,

I read a lot of Cassandra's high scalability feature: allowing seamless addition of nodes, no downtime etc.
But I wonder how one will do this in practice in an operational system.

In the system we're going to implement we're expecting a huge number of writes with uniformly distributed keys
(the keys are given and cannot be generated). That means using RandomPartitioner will (more or less) result in
the same work-load per node as any other OrderPreservePartitioner - right?

But how do you scale a (more or less) balanced Cassandra cluster? I think that in the end
you always have to double the number of nodes (adding just a handful of nodes disburdens only the split regions, the
work-load of untouched regions will grow with unchanged speed).

This seems to be ok for small clusters. But what do you do with when you have several 100s of nodes in your cluster?
It seems to me that a balanced cluster is a bless for performance but a curse for scalability...

What are the alternatives? One could re-distribute the token ranges, but this would cause
downtimes (AFAIK); not an option!

Is there anything that I didn't understand or do I miss something else? Is the only left strategy to make sure that
the cluster grows unbalanced so one can add nodes to the hotspots? However in this case you have to make sure
that this strategy is lasting. Could be too optimistic...

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Paul Loy

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Paul Loy

No. If you are using nodetool move (or any of the nodetool operations) quorum and replication factor is properly maintained.

Paul Loy