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From jonathan.co...@gmail.com
Subject Re: Re: eliminate need to repair by using column TTL??
Date Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:11:00 GMT
good points Aaron. I realize now how expensive repair on reads are. I'm  
going to keep doing repairs regularly but still have a max TTL on all  
columns to make sure we don't have really old data we no longer need  
getting buried in the cluster.

On , aaron morton <aaron@thelastpickle.com> wrote:
> Read repair will only repair data that is read on the nodes that are up  
> at that time, and does not guarantee that any changes it detects will be  
> written back to the nodes. The diff mutations are async fire and forget  
> messages which may go missing or be dropped or ignored by the recipient  
> just like any other message.



> Also getting hit with a bunch of read repair operations is pretty  
> painful. The normal read runs, the coordinator detects the digest  
> mis-match, the read runs again from all nodes and they all have to return  
> their full data (no digests this time), the coordinator detects the  
> diffs, mutations are sent back to each node that needs them. All this  
> happens sync to the read request when the CL > ONE. Thats 2 reads with  
> more network IO and up to RF mutations .



> The delete thing is important but repair also reduces the chance of reads  
> getting hit with RR and gives me confidence when it's necessary to nuke a  
> bad node.



> Your plan may work but it feels risky to me. You may end up with worse  
> read performance and unpleasent emotions if you ever have to nuke a node.  
> Others may disagree.



> Not ignoring the fact the repair can take a long time, fail, hurt  
> performance etc. There are plans to improve it though.



> Cheers



> -----------------

> Aaron Morton

> Freelance Cassandra Developer

> @aaronmorton

> http://www.thelastpickle.com



> On 22 Jul 2011, at 19:55, jonathan.colby@gmail.com wrote:



> > One of the main reasons for regularly running repair is to make sure  
> deletes are propagated in the cluster, ie, data is not resurrected if a  
> node never received the delete call.

> >

> > And repair-on-read takes care of repairing inconsistencies "on-the-fly".

> >

> > So if I were to set a universal TTL on all columns - so everything  
> would only live for a certain age, would I be able to get away without  
> having to do regular repairs with nodetool?

> >

> > I realize this scenario would not be applicable for everyone, but our  
> data model would allow us to do this.

> >

> > So could this be an alternative to running the (resource-intensive,  
> long-running) repairs with nodetool?

> >

> > Thanks.




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