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From Ed Anuff ...@anuff.com>
Subject Re: Announcements List
Date Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:00:57 GMT
+1  that's a great idea

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd love to put a "Planet Cassandra" aggregator together.
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Ed Anuff <ed@anuff.com> wrote:
>> I think that what's being asked for isn't so much announcements as
>> some sort of way of communicating or summarizing roadmap.  However, in
>> practical matters, I'm not sure how this can be done in a mailing list
>> form.  Anything that gets "announced" as roadmap is either so far
>> along that it's not roadmap anymore it's a release announcement, or
>> it's not being announced, it's being presented as an idea for comment,
>> in which case that's what the dev mailing list and JIRA are for.
>>
>> I think the right venue for this is might be a official blog for the
>> project where direction can be discussed at a lower level than maybe
>> it would on the Datastax blog but at a higher level summarizing where
>> certain features are going, etc.  Also, would be a place where links
>> to useful blog posts by others in the community could be posted.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That's exactly the kind of thing that *shouldn't* be on an announce
>>> list (and stay on the dev list), precisely because it deals with
>>> internals that users don't care about.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Boxenhorn <david@citypath.com>
wrote:
>>>> I would like to see this list also used for announcing upcoming features.
At
>>>> some point a decision is made that some future version will include some
>>>> important feature. I don't want that information to be buried in a JIRA
>>>> ticket or a user/dev list discussion.
>>>>
>>>> For example, I was surprised to learn, by accident, from
>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/mattdennis/cassandra-antipatterns , that
>>>> supercolumns will be replaced, internally, by composite columns. This is
>>>> something that we've discussed in the past, and that I have advocated
>>>> myself, but until now I have seen no indication that it would be done, or
>>>> that it was even viewed favorably by a consensus of decision makers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> DataStax has had requests for something like this. It seems like
>>>>> something that would be generally useful for the community though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding twitter, I'm not sure a twitter account should be required
>>>>> to get that information. I think you can follow a twitter account as
>>>>> an rss feed though, so that might be a solution. That and the  google
>>>>> alert or email filter solutions just seem to be introducing more
>>>>> difficulty for anyone trying to get that information. Perhaps the
>>>>> demand for this isn't as high as I am imagining though.
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion on the list if we decide to go with that is that only
>>>>> committers would be able to post to it and yes it would go to the
>>>>> users list as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Sylvain Lebresne <sylvain@datastax.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I have mixed feeling about that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On the one side, I agree with Gary that it doesn't add any real
value.
>>>>> > There is twitter,
>>>>> > and we use consistent tagged subjects for release email, so it's
easy
>>>>> > to subscribe
>>>>> > to the user list and set up a filter.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That being said, I could understand that some people may find it
>>>>> > cleaner to have a
>>>>> > separate announce list and it is not something unheard of, so I'm
ok
>>>>> > with that if enough
>>>>> > people thinks it's a good idea. But I think there is at least 2
>>>>> > questions that come along:
>>>>> >  - should it be moderated ?
>>>>> >  - should announces still be sent to the user list ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Sylvain
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusbabek@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Following @cassandra on twitter or a google alert would be simple
enough
>>>>> I
>>>>> >> think.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Gary.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:26, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com>
wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> What do we think about having a separate mailing list for
just
>>>>> >>> cassandra related announcements. The main purpose being
announcing new
>>>>> >>> releases once they pass a vote and are put up on the website.
I think
>>>>> >>> there is a desire for a way to be informed when new releases
are
>>>>> >>> available without sifting through the dev or users mailing
lists.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Ellis
>>> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
>>> co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
>>> http://www.datastax.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Ellis
> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
> co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
> http://www.datastax.com
>

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