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From David Boxenhorn <da...@citypath.com>
Subject Re: Announcements List
Date Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:21:03 GMT
Ed, that's exactly what I want. A blog format works for me too. Cassandra is
*far* from being a black box, and users have to be quite educated about
Cassandra internals in order to make decisions.

Here are some examples of things I'd like to know, from concrete to
abstract:

1. New releases
2. Bugs in new releases
3. Upcoming features (with approximate release versions, if possible)
4. General architecture changes (e.g. supercolumns, compaction)
5. New Cassandra-related tools
6. Best practices, as they evolve - Cassandra design patterns and
anti-patterns

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Ed Anuff <ed@anuff.com> wrote:

> I think that what's being asked for isn't so much announcements as
> some sort of way of communicating or summarizing roadmap.  However, in
> practical matters, I'm not sure how this can be done in a mailing list
> form.  Anything that gets "announced" as roadmap is either so far
> along that it's not roadmap anymore it's a release announcement, or
> it's not being announced, it's being presented as an idea for comment,
> in which case that's what the dev mailing list and JIRA are for.
>
> I think the right venue for this is might be a official blog for the
> project where direction can be discussed at a lower level than maybe
> it would on the Datastax blog but at a higher level summarizing where
> certain features are going, etc.  Also, would be a place where links
> to useful blog posts by others in the community could be posted.
>
> Ed
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's exactly the kind of thing that *shouldn't* be on an announce
> > list (and stay on the dev list), precisely because it deals with
> > internals that users don't care about.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Boxenhorn <david@citypath.com>
> wrote:
> >> I would like to see this list also used for announcing upcoming
> features. At
> >> some point a decision is made that some future version will include some
> >> important feature. I don't want that information to be buried in a JIRA
> >> ticket or a user/dev list discussion.
> >>
> >> For example, I was surprised to learn, by accident, from
> >> http://www.slideshare.net/mattdennis/cassandra-antipatterns , that
> >> supercolumns will be replaced, internally, by composite columns. This is
> >> something that we've discussed in the past, and that I have advocated
> >> myself, but until now I have seen no indication that it would be done,
> or
> >> that it was even viewed favorably by a consensus of decision makers.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> DataStax has had requests for something like this. It seems like
> >>> something that would be generally useful for the community though.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding twitter, I'm not sure a twitter account should be required
> >>> to get that information. I think you can follow a twitter account as
> >>> an rss feed though, so that might be a solution. That and the  google
> >>> alert or email filter solutions just seem to be introducing more
> >>> difficulty for anyone trying to get that information. Perhaps the
> >>> demand for this isn't as high as I am imagining though.
> >>>
> >>> My opinion on the list if we decide to go with that is that only
> >>> committers would be able to post to it and yes it would go to the
> >>> users list as well.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Sylvain Lebresne <
> sylvain@datastax.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I have mixed feeling about that.
> >>> >
> >>> > On the one side, I agree with Gary that it doesn't add any real
> value.
> >>> > There is twitter,
> >>> > and we use consistent tagged subjects for release email, so it's easy
> >>> > to subscribe
> >>> > to the user list and set up a filter.
> >>> >
> >>> > That being said, I could understand that some people may find it
> >>> > cleaner to have a
> >>> > separate announce list and it is not something unheard of, so I'm ok
> >>> > with that if enough
> >>> > people thinks it's a good idea. But I think there is at least 2
> >>> > questions that come along:
> >>> >  - should it be moderated ?
> >>> >  - should announces still be sent to the user list ?
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Sylvain
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusbabek@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> Following @cassandra on twitter or a google alert would be simple
> enough
> >>> I
> >>> >> think.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Gary.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:26, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> What do we think about having a separate mailing list for just
> >>> >>> cassandra related announcements. The main purpose being announcing
> new
> >>> >>> releases once they pass a vote and are put up on the website.
I
> think
> >>> >>> there is a desire for a way to be informed when new releases
are
> >>> >>> available without sifting through the dev or users mailing
lists.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Ellis
> > Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
> > co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
> > http://www.datastax.com
> >
>

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