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From David Boxenhorn <da...@citypath.com>
Subject Re: Announcements List
Date Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:28:08 GMT
Not true. I am a user. I consider this to be effectively the same as
deprecating supercolumns (with support for the old API for backward
compatibility). The fact that it is in the presentation that I linked to -
from a DataStax employee! - with essentially the same message (i.e. don't
use them if you're just starting), is more evidence that users should care
about it.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Jonathan Ellis <jbellis@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's exactly the kind of thing that *shouldn't* be on an announce
> list (and stay on the dev list), precisely because it deals with
> internals that users don't care about.
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Boxenhorn <david@citypath.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to see this list also used for announcing upcoming features.
> At
> > some point a decision is made that some future version will include some
> > important feature. I don't want that information to be buried in a JIRA
> > ticket or a user/dev list discussion.
> >
> > For example, I was surprised to learn, by accident, from
> > http://www.slideshare.net/mattdennis/cassandra-antipatterns , that
> > supercolumns will be replaced, internally, by composite columns. This is
> > something that we've discussed in the past, and that I have advocated
> > myself, but until now I have seen no indication that it would be done, or
> > that it was even viewed favorably by a consensus of decision makers.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com> wrote:
> >
> >> DataStax has had requests for something like this. It seems like
> >> something that would be generally useful for the community though.
> >>
> >> Regarding twitter, I'm not sure a twitter account should be required
> >> to get that information. I think you can follow a twitter account as
> >> an rss feed though, so that might be a solution. That and the  google
> >> alert or email filter solutions just seem to be introducing more
> >> difficulty for anyone trying to get that information. Perhaps the
> >> demand for this isn't as high as I am imagining though.
> >>
> >> My opinion on the list if we decide to go with that is that only
> >> committers would be able to post to it and yes it would go to the
> >> users list as well.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Sylvain Lebresne <
> sylvain@datastax.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I have mixed feeling about that.
> >> >
> >> > On the one side, I agree with Gary that it doesn't add any real value.
> >> > There is twitter,
> >> > and we use consistent tagged subjects for release email, so it's easy
> >> > to subscribe
> >> > to the user list and set up a filter.
> >> >
> >> > That being said, I could understand that some people may find it
> >> > cleaner to have a
> >> > separate announce list and it is not something unheard of, so I'm ok
> >> > with that if enough
> >> > people thinks it's a good idea. But I think there is at least 2
> >> > questions that come along:
> >> >  - should it be moderated ?
> >> >  - should announces still be sent to the user list ?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sylvain
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusbabek@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Following @cassandra on twitter or a google alert would be simple
> enough
> >> I
> >> >> think.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:26, Nick Bailey <nick@datastax.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> What do we think about having a separate mailing list for just
> >> >>> cassandra related announcements. The main purpose being announcing
> new
> >> >>> releases once they pass a vote and are put up on the website. I
> think
> >> >>> there is a desire for a way to be informed when new releases are
> >> >>> available without sifting through the dev or users mailing lists.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Ellis
> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
> co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
> http://www.datastax.com
>

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