Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cassandra-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 48596 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2009 17:01:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Aug 2009 17:01:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 69234 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2009 16:01:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cassandra-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69218 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2009 16:01:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cassandra-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cassandra-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cassandra-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69208 invoked by uid 99); 24 Aug 2009 16:01:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:01:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.222.187] (HELO mail-pz0-f187.google.com) (209.85.222.187) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:01:48 +0000 Received: by pzk17 with SMTP id 17so922320pzk.32 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.177.15 with SMTP id z15mr2197141rve.187.1251129687360; Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (99-8-186-71.lightspeed.snfcca.sbcglobal.net [99.8.186.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm594107rvf.51.2009.08.24.09.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1075.2) Subject: Re: Data model names, reloaded From: Chris Goffinet In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:01:25 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <05BE7312-0D04-4D13-8762-A77777370A28@chrisgoffinet.com> References: <876ef97a0908240826m26175c31oa8509c83c02ad115@mail.gmail.com> <876ef97a0908240850l907aeddwde4c4835595671d8@mail.gmail.com> To: cassandra-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1075.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1 I am going to agree with Jonathan. I have been quiet mostly on this thread, just to see how things played out. I stopped reading after awhile, as I feel we really need to move past this for now, and defer. Improving cassandra's performance, feature set and stability should be our focus IMHO. Right now we have features that make it difficult to deploy into production. Until we have those things resolved and working, having major user adoption isn't going to help until we get all of those things worked out. On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Toby DiPasquale > wrote: >> That was not my intent. Evan's provided some good stuff. However, I >> think your original post would not have incited my post if you'd >> provided some point at which this could be re-evaluated instead of >> implying that the subject needed to be dropped altogether. Do you >> have >> a suggestion as to when this could be revisited? > > The corollary to "it's too late for 0.4" is "it's too late, period." > > Every project reaches a point past which it's no longer worth > revisiting certain fundamental decisions. IMO Cassandra has passed > that point for "what do we call a Column." > > -Jonathan