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From Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] graduation date
Date Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:28:34 GMT
This sounds great! I will start work on the charter. Definitely for
lazy consensus approach.

Thanks Ross!

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Michael Brooks <michael@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:

> >
> > I suggest that you assume lazy consensus within the community and get on
> > with writing the charter.
>
>
> +1 lazy consensus :)
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 4 October 2012 12:20, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> > > Ross, what are the next steps for us to do for graduation
> > > then---a vote?
> >
> > Agreement by the community and your mentors that you are ready to
> > graduate is needed. This can be a formal vote or can be a lazy
> > consensus thing. You have two mentors (that I recall) saying you are
> > ready and I see noone in the community objecting. I suggest that you
> > assume lazy consensus within the community and get on with writing the
> > charter. There is more information on how in
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution
> >
> > After that you ask the IPMC to vote to recommend you to graduate (I
> > suggest you also use this as a last chance for the community to raise
> > any objections since I'm suggesting missing a formal community vote -
> > however if anyone has any objections they can do so now or during the
> > charter drafting).
> >
> > Once the IPMC vote has concluded you submit the charter to the board
> > and your (barring unexpected issues) done.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > >
> > > [1] http://hc.apache.org/charter.html
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ross Gardler <
> rgardler@opendirective.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> The charter is an resolution that the Board votes on to create the
> > >> TLP. For example:
> > >>
> > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > >>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > >>  Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > >>  Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > >>  open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >>  related to a widgets-based, web-and-social mashup platform.
> > >>
> > >>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > >>  Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Rave Project",
> > >>  be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > >>  Foundation; and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Rave Project be and hereby is
> > >>  responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> > >>  related to a widgets-based, web-and-social mashup platform;
> > >>  and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Rave" be
> > >>  and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> > >>  serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> > >>  of the Apache Rave Project, and to have primary responsibility
> > >>  for management of the projects within the scope of
> > >>  responsibility of the Apache Rave Project; and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> > >>  hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> > >>  Apache Rave Project:
> > >>
> > >>     * Ard Schrijvers      <ard@apache.org>
> > >>     * Ate Douma           <ate@apache.org>
> > >>     * Bas Zoetekouw       <bas@apache.org>
> > >>     * Gerald Guo          <zhguo@apache.org>
> > >>     * Hadrian Zbarcea     <hadrian@apache.org>
> > >>     * Jasha Joachimsthal  <jasha@apache.org>
> > >>     * Jesse Ciancetta     <jcian@apache.org>
> > >>     * Joost van Dijk      <joostvandijk@apache.org>
> > >>     * Maarten Kremers     <mkremers@apache.org>
> > >>     * Marlon Pierce       <mpierce@apache.org>
> > >>     * Matt Franklin       <mfranklin@apache.org>
> > >>     * Niels van Dijk      <cthings@apache.org>
> > >>     * Okke Harsta         <oharsta@apache.org>
> > >>     * Raminder Singh      <raminder@apache.org>
> > >>     * Ross Gardler        <rgardler@apache.org>
> > >>     * Sander van der Waal <svanderwaal@apache.org>
> > >>     * Scott Wilson        <scottbw@apache.org>
> > >>     * Sean Cooper         <secooper@apache.org>
> > >>     * Suresh Marru        <smarru@apache.org>
> > >>     * Tony Carlucci       <carlucci@apache.org>
> > >>     * Unico Hommes        <unico@apache.org>
> > >>     * Venkat Mahadevan    <venkatm@apache.org>
> > >>     * Woonsan Ko          <woonsan@apache.org>
> > >>
> > >>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Franklin
> > >>  be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Rave, to
> > >>  serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> > >>  Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> > >>  death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> > >>  or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Rave PMC be and hereby is
> > >>  tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> > >>  encourage open development and increased participation in the
> > >>  Apache Rave Project; and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Rave Project be and hereby
> > >>  is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> > >>  Incubator Rave podling; and be it further
> > >>
> > >>  RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > >>  Incubator Rave podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> > >>  Project are hereafter discharged.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 4 October 2012 11:50, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> > >>> We do not have a formal charter. I started something in the wiki [1]
> > >>> drawing on some of the content from our proposal [2].
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/Draft%20Charter
> > >>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CallbackProposal
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>> I want to bump this thread up and get the graduation process
> started.
> > We
> > >>>> have released 2.1 as the first official release for Apache Cordova.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Looking at the link Jukka posted (
> > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#process)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There are a few steps left till graduation:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>    - a charter for your project
> > >>>>    - a positive community graduation
> > >>>> VOTE<http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
> > >>>>    - a positive IPMC recommendation
> > >>>> VOTE<http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
> > >>>>    - the acceptance of the
> > >>>> resolution<
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution>
> > >>>> by
> > >>>>    the Board
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am not sure if we have a charter. Anyone have any details on
this?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We can start a vote thread, but I am wondering if we need to have
> the
> > >>>> charter before we start it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Steve
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Michael Brooks <
> > mikeywbrooks@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> +1 for 2.1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 2012-09-07, at 12:14 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> > Well, want to point out if we ship 2.1 src (w/ official
process
> and
> > >>>>> > vote) the only additional step is another vote thread
specifying
> > >>>>> > whether we feel we're ready for graduating. (Which is
why I'm
> > thinking
> > >>>>> > doing it sooner isn't a big deal.)
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>> >> 2.1 is probably cutting it too close.
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> Around the time of 2.2 more realistic?
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> On 9/7/12 10:34 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io>
wrote:
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >>> Hi guys, we are close to being ready to engage
the graduation
> > process
> > >>>>> >>> and become a top level project. [1] Ross suggested
we set a
> date
> > and I
> > >>>>> >>> agree. The next board report isn't due until November
but that
> > doesn't
> > >>>>> >>> mean we cant' do thing sooner. My preference would
be
> > mid-september
> > >>>>> >>> (after we ship 2.1) but maybe thats too soon.
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> > >> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> > >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> > Programme Leader (Open Development)
> > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
> >
>

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