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From Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: point release?
Date Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:17:08 GMT
Bugs that I'd like to see fixed before the RC:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1603
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1604
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1570
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1563

We should be able to fix these over the next couple of days though. Want to
aim for cutting the RC Thursday?



On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> Agree that tagging 2.2.0rc1 is the right thing to do at this point.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Becky Gibson <gibson.becky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think we have a pretty good handle on the iOS 6 bugs.  Most of the ones
> > reported recently have already been fixed and committed.  I would push
> for
> > a release candidate this week so we can start focusing on testing and bug
> > fixes rather than continue to add more features and optimizations.   I
> > think once we have a release candidate we will get more feedback from
> users
> > who are not comfortable taking an edge build. This will get us more real
> > world iOS 6 testing.
> >
> > -becky
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Giorgio Natili <g.natili@gnstudio.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Because has been said that some (or most) iOS 6 issues will be not part
> > of
> > > it...
> > >
> > > On 10/8/12 9:03 AM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Why do you feel that this release wouldn't be a stable release?
> > > >
> > > >On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Giorgio Natili <
> g.natili@gnstudio.com>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >> Just my 2 cents but you don't think is better to wait 2 weeks more
> and
> > > >> have a pretty stable one?
> > > >>
> > > >> Giorgio
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/3/12 7:56 PM, "Simon MacDonald" <simon.macdonald@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>I think we are looking good for 2.2.0 on Android. It will mostly
be
> a
> > > >>>bug fix/performance release for us. I suspect we'll need until
2.3.0
> > > >>>to get all the Camera code sorted.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Simon Mac Donald
> > > >>>http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Bryce Curtis <
> curtis.bryce@gmail.com>
> > > >>>wrote:
> > > >>>> It sounds like resolving iOS6 issues will drive when 2.2.0
can be
> > > >>>> tagged.  What is the readiness of the other platforms so we
can
> > have a
> > > >>>> 2.2 release when iOS is ready? Does it sound reasonable to
have a
> > > >>>> release candidate in a week or so, then give a couple of weeks
of
> > > >>>> testing before tagging 2.2?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
wrote:
> > > >>>>> If you folks see benefit for the iOS implementation, then
I'm for
> > > >>>>>waiting.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 10/2/12 8:48 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>I was thinking the same thing. We still have new iOS6-related
> bugs
> > > >>>>>>being
> > > >>>>>>reported, so it might make sense to give this more
time.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Becky Gibson
> > > >>>>>><gibson.becky@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> So, where do we stand on this?  I think working
towards 2.2
> > sooner
> > > >>>>>>>rather
> > > >>>>>>> than later would be the best solution since there
appear to be
> > many
> > > >>>>>>>issues
> > > >>>>>>> with cutting a point release.  Where do the other
platforms
> stand
> > > >>>>>>>wrt
> > > >>>>>>>2.2?
> > > >>>>>>>   What more needs to be done?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> -becky
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Michal Mocny
<
> > mmocny@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > Nevermind, I'm not able to repro the report.
> > > >>>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michal Mocny
> > > >>>>>>><mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>> > > someone just reported an issue with
FileWriter on ios6 (
> > > >>>>>>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1559)
similar to
> a
> > > >>>>>>>FileReader
> > > >>>>>>> > > issue I fixed a few weeks back.  Fix
is likely easy, just
> > > >>>>>>>taking
> > > >>>>>>>a
> > > >>>>>>>look
> > > >>>>>>> > > right now to confirm and see if any
other things need
> fixing.
> > > >>>>>>>Should
> > > >>>>>>> be
> > > >>>>>>> > > solved today.
> > > >>>>>>> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Andrew
Grieve
> > > >>>>>>><agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >>>>>>> > >wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> The main fixes we'll need are:
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 2 days ago Patrick Mueller [ios]
route console methods to
> > > >>>>>>>original
> > > >>>>>>> > >> console commit
> > > >>>>>>> > >> | commitdiff | tree | snapshot
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 2 days ago Patrick Mueller [ios]
route console methods to
> > > >>>>>>>original
> > > >>>>>>> > >> console commit
> > > >>>>>>> > >> | commitdiff | tree | snapshot
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 2 days ago Andrew Grieve [ios] Change
default bridge from
> > > >>>>>>> XHR_NO_PAYLOAD
> > > >>>>>>> > >> to... commit | commitdiff | tree
| snapshot
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 2 days ago Andrew Grieve [ios] Attempt
to fix a crash in
> iOS
> > > >>>>>>>XHR
> > > >>>>>>> bridge
> > > >>>>>>> > >> mode. commit | commitdiff | tree
| snapshot
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 2 days ago Andrew Grieve [ios] Fix
XHR exec bridge not
> > working
> > > >>>>>>>for
> > > >>>>>>> > >> non-file... commit | commitdiff
| tree | snapsho
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> However, there were also extra params
added to
> FileTransfer
> > > >>>>>>>that
> > > >>>>>>>will
> > > >>>>>>> > also
> > > >>>>>>> > >> need to be included to avoid a JS/Native
mismatch.
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> There looks to be some Globalization
plugin JS commits as
> > > >>>>>>>well,
> > > >>>>>>>but I
> > > >>>>>>> > >> haven't followed whether those will
cause issues if left
> > out.
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:06 PM,
Michael Brooks <
> > > >>>>>>> > michael@michaelbrooks.ca
> > > >>>>>>> > >> >wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > When we decide to roll 2.1.1,
we should use JIRA to
> track
> > > >>>>>>>the
> > > >>>>>>> release.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > Unfortunately, that means JIRA
spam...
> > > >>>>>>> > >> >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:44
PM, Filip Maj <
> fil@adobe.com
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > iOS folks: are there any
commits needed newer than the
> > > >>>>>>>2.1.0
> > > >>>>>>>tag
> > > >>>>>>> in
> > > >>>>>>> > >> the
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > JS
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > for any critical fixes?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > On 9/27/12 3:40 PM, "Jesse
MacFadyen"
> > > >>>>>>><purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >Just iOS afaik
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >  Jesse
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >Sent from my iPhone6
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >On 2012-09-27, at
3:36 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >> So which platforms
are we fixing horrible bugs for
> in
> > > >>>>>>>2.1.1?
> > > >>>>>>> WP7
> > > >>>>>>> > +
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > iOS?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >> Basically: do
any of the failing platforms that
> > > >>>>>>>_require_
> > > >>>>>>>fixes
> > > >>>>>>> > >> need
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > any
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >> JS fixes?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >> On 9/27/12 3:32
PM, "Jesse" <
> purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> Where / When
are we tagging cordova-js ?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> On Thu, Sep
27, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Jesse MacFadyen
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>> Not disagreeing.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>  Jesse
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>> Sent
from my iPhone6
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>> On 2012-09-27,
at 2:31 AM, Brian LeRoux <
> > b@brian.io>
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> One
click builds are not just for CI! Hand
> rolling
> > > >>>>>>>always
> > > >>>>>>> > error
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>prone,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> time
consuming repatative business like that is
> a
> > > >>>>>>>job
> > > >>>>>>>for a
> > > >>>>>>> > >> robot.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>You
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> then
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> can
focus on code, and others can see (and
> > therefor
> > > >>>>>>>improve
> > > >>>>>>> > >> upon)
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> release
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> packaging.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Regardless
of all those benefits we want to get
> > to a
> > > >>>>>>>CI
> > > >>>>>>> > future.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> (recommended
reading on this, and more:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> http://pragprog.com/the-pragmatic-programmer)
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> On
Thursday, September 27, 2012, Jesse MacFadyen
> > > >>>>>>>wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
I agree in a continuous integration scenario
> that
> > > >>>>>>>makes
> > > >>>>>>> > sense,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> but
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>we
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
are not there yet, and probably not soon
> either.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
Jesse
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
Sent from my iPhone6
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
On 2012-09-26, at 12:46 PM, Brian LeRoux
> > > >>>>>>><b@brian.io>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
Ya lets not ship a release with different ver
> > > >>>>>>>numbers
> > > >>>>>>> inside
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>bundled.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
That's askin for (more) issue tracking hell. A
> > > >>>>>>>release
> > > >>>>>>>tag
> > > >>>>>>> > is
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > just
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>a
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
one
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
liner / automated. If it isn't: it should be.
> :p
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
On Wednesday, September 26, 2012, Filip Maj
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
Link fail!
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1531
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
On 9/26/12 12:22 PM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <
> > > >>>>>>> > >> purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
Address which for windows phone?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
Jesse
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
Sent from my iPhone6
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
On 2012-09-26, at 12:01 PM, Filip Maj
> > > >>>>>>><fil@adobe.com>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
O ya and we should possibly address this
> for
> > > >>>>>>>windows
> > > >>>>>>> > phone
> > > >>>>>>> > >> 7
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>2.1.1
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
Jesse are there any instructions anywhere
> on
> > > >>>>>>>how
> > > >>>>>>>to
> > > >>>>>>>put
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > together
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
those
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
starter packages?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
On 9/26/12 10:04 AM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
I think we should allow some latitude in
> the
> > > >>>>>>>point
> > > >>>>>>> > >> releases
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > to
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
avoid
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
the cascade of meaningless tags, and extra
> > > >>>>>>>work.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
Can we release 2.1.1 and just say that it
> > > >>>>>>>contains
> > > >>>>>>> 2.1.1
> > > >>>>>>> > >> for
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>iOS
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
and
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
2.1.0 for the rest? There are no API
> changes
> > > >>>>>>>right?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
Cheers,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
Jesse
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
Sent from my iPhone6
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
On 2012-09-26, at 9:54 AM, Michael Brooks
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
<michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
As Becky mentioned, there's some big
> issues
> > > >>>>>>>for
> > > >>>>>>>iOS
> > > >>>>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>> > >> our
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
user's
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
would
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
really like to see a quick patch.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
I'd be in favour of tagging 2.1.1, where
> > iOS
> > > >>>>>>>tags
> > > >>>>>>> > master
> > > >>>>>>> > >> and
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
every
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
other
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
platform tags 2.1.1 on the same commit as
> > > >>>>>>>2.1.0.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
Michael
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Brian
> > > >>>>>>>LeRoux <
> > > >>>>>>> > >> b@brian.io>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'd rather we point 2.1.1 at the 2.1 tag
> > as
> > > >>>>>>> suggested
> > > >>>>>>> > >> for
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Android,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
continue work on 2.2 as planned, and
> ship
> > a
> > > >>>>>>>fresh
> > > >>>>>>> > >> release
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > for
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
iOS
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
wherein the big showstopper type
> problems
> > > >>>>>>>exist.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Joe
> > Bowser
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>><bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think we should just start cutting a
> > > >>>>>>>2.2.0
> > > >>>>>>> release.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> >  This
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
change
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
log
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
looks too big for a point release and
> > > >>>>>>>there's
> > > >>>>>>> enough
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
improvements
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
to
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
merit
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
it.
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That being said, Cordova 2.1.0 still
> > isn't
> > > >>>>>>> officially
> > > >>>>>>> > >> out,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
which
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
complicates things.  Any word on that?
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On Sep 26, 2012 6:33 AM, "Andrew
> Grieve"
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Another breakage that has been coming
> > up a
> > > >>>>>>>lot
> > > >>>>>>>is
> > > >>>>>>> > that
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > the
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
new
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
XHR
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
bridge
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
didn't work on non file:/// hosted
> > paged.
> > > >>>>>>>It's
> > > >>>>>>> fixed
> > > >>>>>>> > >> now,
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>so
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>
would
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
be
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
good
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
to get it out ther
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> --
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> @purplecabbage
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>> risingj.com
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >> >
> > > >>>>>>> > >>
> > > >>>>>>> > >
> > > >>>>>>> > >
> > > >>>>>>> >
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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