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From: Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:04:37 -0700
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Nice!

I worked out some of your quotes/questions and put it up on my branch on
github: https://github.com/filmaj/cordova-client/tree/einstein

On 9/9/12 8:02 AM, "Mike Reinstein" <reinstein.mike@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey folks,
>
>Hope you all had a nice weekend.  I have a preliminary draft ready that
>merges cordova-client and command line tooling design into 1 document:
>
>https://github.com/mreinstein/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>
>Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
>-Mike
>
>On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.kadri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> pluginstall-with-git support is just an experiment that I did a while
>>back
>> (it takes git URLs as well as local paths). I suggest you base your
>>work on
>> alunny's pluginstall until/if those changes get merged.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Anis
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Mike Reinstein <reinstein.mike@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > I see 2 repositories for pluginstall:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/pluginstall-with-gi
>>t-support
>> >
>> > and Andrew's:
>> > https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall
>> >
>> > When consolidating the pluginstall and plugin format docs I forked
>> Andrew's
>> > repo. Should I instead have used the pluginstall-with-git-support
>>repo as
>> > my base?
>> >
>> > -Mike
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Reinstein
>><reinstein.mike@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > My username is nekoflux.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> JIRA is separate, we can assign issues to you (if you so wish).
>> > >>
>> > >> On 9/7/12 4:51 PM, "Shazron" <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Registration is open - let us know what your user account is once
>>you
>> > >> >do that, for assigning issues to yourself you need us to add you
>>to a
>> > >> >contributors group.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mike Reinstein <
>> > reinstein.mike@gmail.com
>> > >> >
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >> >> Okay, will do. Any feedback on the other comments? I'll proceed
>> with
>> > >> >> merging the cordova-client and command line tooling spec next. I
>> > >> >>suppose it
>> > >> >> probably makes sense for me to start working out of JIRA so
>>these
>> > tasks
>> > >> >>can
>> > >> >> be tracked. Is registration open or do I need to get permission
>> from
>> > an
>> > >> >> admin for an account?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, this looks awesome!
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> The one modification I would do is remove "www" as a platform
>>(you
>> > >> >>>have a
>> > >> >>> comment in there about that too).
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> On 9/5/12 7:12 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> eventually we will move pluginstall into apache
>> > >> >>> >Okay, I wasn't sure if that would happen, so I went with the
>> > slightly
>> > >> >>>more
>> > >> >>> >conservative assumption, that pluginstall might live
>>separately
>> > from
>> > >> >>> >cordova-client. But I get the impression this is a left-over
>> notion
>> > >> >>>from
>> > >> >>> >when Andrew first built pluginstall and it wasn't clear then
>> > whether
>> > >> >>>or
>> > >> >>> >not
>> > >> >>> >it would take hold.
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >I've got an initial version of the merged documentation for
>>the
>> > >> >>> >pluginstall
>> > >> >>> >command line tool, and the specification doc. It's here
>> > >> >>> >https://github.com/mreinstein/pluginstall
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >I've also added some comments on possible changes. Overall the
>> doc
>> > is
>> > >> >>> >pretty tight, so it's largely unchanged. Would really
>>appreciate
>> > >> >>> >constructive feedback on this. If it looks right I'll send a
>>pull
>> > >> >>>request
>> > >> >>> >to alunny, and then proceed with merging cordova-client design
>> doc
>> > >> >>>into
>> > >> >>> >the
>> > >> >>> >README on github.
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >-Mike
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
>>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> +1 !
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> (I THINK) eventually we will move pluginstall into apache
>> > (assuming
>> > >> >>>the
>> > >> >>> >> authors are cool with that) so it will go 2 docs -> 1 doc.
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> On 9/3/12 1:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io> wrote:
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >love it
>> > >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Mike Reinstein
>> > >> >>> >><reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> >> >wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >> Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I've had a chance to
>> > review
>> > >> >>>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>docs
>> > >> >>> >> >> more carefully. I'm really impressed with how well
>>written
>> > they
>> > >> >>>are.
>> > >> >>> >> >>What I
>> > >> >>> >> >> *think* makes the most sense is to consolidate into fewer
>> > >> >>>documents
>> > >> >>> >>so
>> > >> >>> >> >>that
>> > >> >>> >> >> it's not necessary to look at so many seperate places.
>> Here's
>> > >> >>>what I
>> > >> >>> >> >> propose:
>> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the cordova-plugin-spec into the
>>alunny/pluginstall
>> > >> >>>README.md
>> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the command line tooling design doc into the
>> > >> >>>cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >> README.md
>> > >> >>> >> >> * pull apart the cordova/PluginDesign wiki page and merge
>> > parts
>> > >> >>>of it
>> > >> >>> >> >>into
>> > >> >>> >> >> the above 2 docs
>> > >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >> I think what this gets us is 2 docs instead of 5, and it
>> still
>> > >> >>> >>maintains
>> > >> >>> >> >> the nice loose coupling between alunny's pluginstall
>>utility
>> > and
>> > >> >>>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>larger
>> > >> >>> >> >> cordova-client. I'm assuming this separation was the
>> original
>> > >> >>>intent,
>> > >> >>> >> >> rather than having one monolithic tool.
>> > >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >> Would love feedback on this, I don't want to waste time
>> doing
>> > it
>> > >> >>>and
>> > >> >>> >> >>find
>> > >> >>> >> >> out this isn't appropriate. :)
>> > >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Filip Maj
>><fil@adobe.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> Cordova-client depends on pluginstall. Pluginstall does
>>the
>> > >> hard
>> > >> >>> >>work
>> > >> >>> >> >>>for
>> > >> >>> >> >>> programmatic plugin installation, which is just one of
>>the
>> > apis
>> > >> >>> >> >>>available
>> > >> >>> >> >>> in cordova-client. So, cordova=3Dclient "shells out" to
>> > >> >>>pluginstall.
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> The client also handles app creation, platform
>> > >> >>>removal/addition, and
>> > >> >>> >> >>> interpolating information from app's config.xml into the
>> > >> >>>necessary
>> > >> >>> >> >>>spots
>> > >> >>> >> >>> in each native project.
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> On 8/31/12 12:32 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <
>> > >> reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >Hey Filip,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >One thing I"m curious about, whats the difference
>>between
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall and
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >>>
>> > >>
>>https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >there seems to be some overlap there. Is pluginstall a
>> > subset
>> > >> >>>of
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >functionality just related to plugins that has moved
>>into
>> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >or
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >is it different?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >It seems like cordova-client is the most mature
>>codebase
>> > that
>> > >> >>> >> >>>incorporates
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >a lot of ideas, so I'm just chasing down code I'm
>>finding
>> to
>> > >> >>>see if
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >everythign is in cordova-client or not. Said
>>differently,
>> is
>> > >> it
>> > >> >>> >>safe
>> > >> >>> >> >>>to
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >assume that just about all the worthwhile code is in
>> > >> >>> >>cordova-client?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >-Mike
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Filip Maj
>><fil@adobe.com
>> >
>> > >> >>>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> All looks good to me Mike.
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> I think the "PluginDesign" wiki article would be a
>>great
>> > >> >>>place to
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> summarize / revamp all this info. Appreciate you
>> tackling
>> > >> >>>this!
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/31/12 11:59 AM, "Mike Reinstein"
>> > >> >>><reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >Hey Filip, Brian:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I think where I'd like to start is on
>>documentation. I
>> > may
>> > >> >>>be
>> > >> >>> >>wrong
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>about
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >this, but it seems like there are bits and pieces of
>> docs
>> > >> in
>> > >> >>> >> >>>various
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >places, and some may be stale or irrelevant. Maybe a
>> good
>> > >> >>>start
>> > >> >>> >>is
>> > >> >>> >> >>>for
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>me
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >to find all these pieces, consolidate into a
>>"master"
>> > >> >>>document,
>> > >> >>> >>and
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>cull
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out the outdated bits? As a start, here's my
>>rephrasing
>> > of
>> > >> >>>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>>various
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >links, etc that you've sent to me. Please take a
>>look
>> and
>> > >> >>>let me
>> > >> >>> >> >>>know
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>if
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I've characterised the content/purpose of these
>>various
>> > >> >>>links:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*The spec for how plugins are declared is here:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >The implementation that manages plugin usage is
>>here:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This project encompasses more than just plugins
>>because
>> > it
>> > >> >>>also
>> > >> >>> >> >>>handles
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >everything related to building, deploying, and
>>managing
>> > >> >>>cordova
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >applications
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >These plugins are most popular, and should ideally
>>work
>> > >> >>>with the
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >cordova-client implemenation:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >http://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This implementation by Drew was an initial proof of
>> > >> concept,
>> > >> >>> >>which
>> > >> >>> >> >>>only
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >works for blackberry and has been abandoned in
>>favor of
>> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >with much of his ideas having made it into
>> > cordova-client:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> https://github.com/deedubbu/cordova-blackberry-pluggable
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some info on the format of the
>> command
>> > >> >>>line
>> > >> >>> >> >>>interface
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >and
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >directory structure of cordova-client:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some documentation on Drew's old
>> > >> >>> >>implementation,
>> > >> >>> >> >>>and
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>is
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out of date now:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I want to emphasize that I'm just trying to get a
>> handle
>> > on
>> > >> >>>what
>> > >> >>> >> >>>docs
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>are
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >relevant and which links contain what. I'm not
>>judging
>> > >> >>>anyone's
>> > >> >>> >> >>>work or
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >anything like that. :) If I've got the wrong idea
>>about
>> > >> what
>> > >> >>> >>these
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>links
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >represent or contain, _please_ let me know.
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >-Mike
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Filip Maj <
>> > fil@adobe.com>
>> > >> >>> >>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> The cordova client CLI tooling top-level project
>>goes
>> > >> >>> >> >>>hand-in-hand
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>with
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> this spec. Code here:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dincubator-cordova-labs.git;a=
=3Ds
>> > >> >>> >> >>>h
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>or
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> tlog;h=3Drefs/heads/cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Essentially: vet the spec out to make sure popular
>> > >> >>>plugins out
>> > >> >>> >> >>>in the
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>wild
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> (see github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins) work
>>with
>> > >> this
>> > >> >>> >>spec.
>> > >> >>> >> >>>Do
>> > >> >>> >> >>> we
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>need
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> to account for anything else?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I think the one outstanding question is how to
>>handle
>> > >> >>> >> >>>installation /
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> compatibility with different versions of cordova.
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Documentation for the tool as well as the spec
>>(put
>> it
>> > on
>> > >> >>>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>>wiki,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> perhaps) would be awesome!
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 8/25/12 10:23 AM, "Mike Reinstein"
>> > >> >>> >><reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Hi Brian, Filip,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Thanks for the pointers to those projects. I'd
>>love
>> to
>> > >> >>>dig in
>> > >> >>> >> >>>and
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>start
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >helping, where do you feel the most help is
>>needed
>> at
>> > >> the
>> > >> >>> >> >>>moment?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Documentation? Any specific code tasks?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >-Mike
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Filip Maj
>> > >> >>><fil@adobe.com>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> Also, this is the current de-facto plugin
>>"spec"
>> we
>> > >> are
>> > >> >>> >> >>>working
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>towards:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> On 8/6/12 8:20 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Hi Mike, you've come to the right place!
>> Currently
>> > >> the
>> > >> >>> >>plugin
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>tooling
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >is being implemented by Anis, Fil, Michael,
>>and
>> > >> >>>myself.
>> > >> >>> >> >>>(sorry
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>for
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >delayed response / many of us are on a summer
>> break
>> > >> >>>after
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>shipping
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >2.0)
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >We're loosely collaborating using this list,
>>git,
>> > and
>> > >> >>> >>these
>> > >> >>> >> >>>wiki
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>pages:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >- http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >-
>> > >> >>>http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >The dev is taking place a Cordova/Labs branch
>> which
>> > >> >>>you
>> > >> >>> >>can
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>preview
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>on
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >the Github mirror here:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >>
>>https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >You will want to start by reading up on our
>> contrib
>> > >> >>> >>process
>> > >> >>> >> >>>in
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>wiki:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributerWorkflow
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >And in the case of labs projects everything
>>stays
>> > on
>> > >> >>>its
>> > >> >>> >>own
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>branch
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >until such a time that we feel its solid for
>>its
>> > own
>> > >> >>>repo.
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >* * *
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Let me know any q's!
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Mike
>>Reinstein
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> ><reinstein.mike@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hey there,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I'm interested in contributing to the plugin
>> > system
>> > >> >>> >>that is
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>forthcoming. Is
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> this the right place to bring it up? Who are
>> the
>> > >> >>>right
>> > >> >>> >> >>>people
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>to
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>talk
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>to?
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Where do you need the most help? I'm an
>> > experienced
>> > >> >>> >> >>>developer,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>have
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>worked
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> on a few phonegap based projects, and would
>> love
>> > to
>> > >> >>>give
>> > >> >>> >> >>>back
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>to
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>the
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> community.
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> cheers,
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -Mike
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>> >>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
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