My bullet point indentation is terribad ;) But you should be able to
figure it out.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michal Mocny wrote:
> Alright, I'll post my comments here for now, but I'll have to ponder over
> a more scalable approach in the future. (Im thinking that an online
> document editor that sends all comments to ML and allows replies inline
> would work really nice..).
>
> * You will be able to access the client interface via: $ ./bin/cordova
> * * suggest replacing ./ with $(CORDOVA_CLIENT_DIR)/
>
> * Subcommands section
> * * Typical unix manpage style is to use [] to surround optional arguments
> <> to surround explanations and nothing for keywords. Examples that need
> fixing include:
> * * * create [] []
> * * * platform ls
> * * * platform add
> * * * etc
> * * even if we aren't aiming for manpage style here, there
> are inconsistencies
>
> * * File and Directory Structure ascii tree diagram
> * * * suggest appending / after directory names
>
> * * ... it's assumed to be a 'backed in' platform/plugin. Otherwise, it's
> assumed to be a URL to a gzipped tar archive...
> * * * Not sure what 'backed in' means here, nor how to identify something
> as not being backed in so as to fallback to gzipped tar
> * * * Also wording sounds more like "else .. else" instead of "else if ..
> else" (if that makes sense) :P
>
> * * KewlApp directory structure ascii tree diagram
> * * * based on my understanding of the text, the ios/android platforms
> should be subdirs of platforms/ and there should also be a subdir listed in
> plugins/
>
> * * Running tests warning
> * * * Perhaps explain how to bootstrap so as not to have failing tests
> instead of assuming the reverse?
>
> Also, I will look into bash completions in some spare cycles and if it
> looks reasonable I may volunteer for the task. I've been curious to learn
> how those work :)
>
> -Michal
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Filip Maj wrote:
>
>> Mailing list! We forked and committed for the simple stuff (deeper
>> explanations and merging documentation), but if you have discussion +
>> design points, ML is the place to do it.
>>
>> On 9/10/12 11:31 AM, "Michal Mocny" wrote:
>>
>> >I'm just reading along and would like to make some comments here and
>> >there.
>> > However, it seems pretty inefficient to branch the project just to mark
>> >my
>> >comments and email may be confusing.
>> >
>> >Usually I've just used Google Docs to mark comments inline for stuff like
>> >this but perhaps that suggestion won't fly well. Does github not have a
>> >feature for this (commenting on a file, starting a wiki, etc?)
>> >
>> >Any suggestions/opinions?
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Mike Reinstein
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Looks good to me. What are the next steps? One thing I'd like to see
>> >>happen
>> >> is getting rid of some of those repos and documentation pages that are
>> >> redundant.
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Filip Maj wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Nice!
>> >> >
>> >> > I worked out some of your quotes/questions and put it up on my branch
>> >>on
>> >> > github: https://github.com/filmaj/cordova-client/tree/einstein
>> >> >
>> >> > On 9/9/12 8:02 AM, "Mike Reinstein"
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Hey folks,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Hope you all had a nice weekend. I have a preliminary draft ready
>> >>that
>> >> > >merges cordova-client and command line tooling design into 1
>> >>document:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> https://github.com/mreinstein/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >-Mike
>> >> > >
>> >> > >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Anis KADRI
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Hi Mike,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> pluginstall-with-git support is just an experiment that I did a
>> >>while
>> >> > >>back
>> >> > >> (it takes git URLs as well as local paths). I suggest you base
>> your
>> >> > >>work on
>> >> > >> alunny's pluginstall until/if those changes get merged.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Cheers
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Anis
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Mike Reinstein <
>> >> > reinstein.mike@gmail.com
>> >> > >> >wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > I see 2 repositories for pluginstall:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/pluginstall-with-gi
>> >> > >>t-support
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > and Andrew's:
>> >> > >> > https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > When consolidating the pluginstall and plugin format docs I
>> >>forked
>> >> > >> Andrew's
>> >> > >> > repo. Should I instead have used the
>> pluginstall-with-git-support
>> >> > >>repo as
>> >> > >> > my base?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > -Mike
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Reinstein
>> >> > >>> >> > >> > >wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > My username is nekoflux.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Filip Maj
>> >>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > >> JIRA is separate, we can assign issues to you (if you so
>> >>wish).
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >> On 9/7/12 4:51 PM, "Shazron" wrote:
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >> >Registration is open - let us know what your user account is
>> >> once
>> >> > >>you
>> >> > >> > >> >do that, for assigning issues to yourself you need us to add
>> >>you
>> >> > >>to a
>> >> > >> > >> >contributors group.
>> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mike Reinstein <
>> >> > >> > reinstein.mike@gmail.com
>> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >> Okay, will do. Any feedback on the other comments? I'll
>> >> proceed
>> >> > >> with
>> >> > >> > >> >> merging the cordova-client and command line tooling spec
>> >> next. I
>> >> > >> > >> >>suppose it
>> >> > >> > >> >> probably makes sense for me to start working out of JIRA
>> so
>> >> > >>these
>> >> > >> > tasks
>> >> > >> > >> >>can
>> >> > >> > >> >> be tracked. Is registration open or do I need to get
>> >> permission
>> >> > >> from
>> >> > >> > an
>> >> > >> > >> >> admin for an account?
>> >> > >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Filip Maj
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, this looks awesome!
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> The one modification I would do is remove "www" as a
>> >>platform
>> >> > >>(you
>> >> > >> > >> >>>have a
>> >> > >> > >> >>> comment in there about that too).
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> On 9/5/12 7:12 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <
>> >> reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> eventually we will move pluginstall into apache
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >Okay, I wasn't sure if that would happen, so I went with
>> >>the
>> >> > >> > slightly
>> >> > >> > >> >>>more
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >conservative assumption, that pluginstall might live
>> >> > >>separately
>> >> > >> > from
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >cordova-client. But I get the impression this is a
>> >>left-over
>> >> > >> notion
>> >> > >> > >> >>>from
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >when Andrew first built pluginstall and it wasn't clear
>> >>then
>> >> > >> > whether
>> >> > >> > >> >>>or
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >not
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >it would take hold.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >I've got an initial version of the merged documentation
>> >>for
>> >> > >>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >pluginstall
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >command line tool, and the specification doc. It's here
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >https://github.com/mreinstein/pluginstall
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >I've also added some comments on possible changes.
>> >>Overall
>> >> the
>> >> > >> doc
>> >> > >> > is
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >pretty tight, so it's largely unchanged. Would really
>> >> > >>appreciate
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >constructive feedback on this. If it looks right I'll
>> >>send a
>> >> > >>pull
>> >> > >> > >> >>>request
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >to alunny, and then proceed with merging cordova-client
>> >> design
>> >> > >> doc
>> >> > >> > >> >>>into
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >README on github.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >-Mike
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Filip Maj <
>> fil@adobe.com>
>> >> > >>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> +1 !
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> (I THINK) eventually we will move pluginstall into
>> >>apache
>> >> > >> > (assuming
>> >> > >> > >> >>>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> authors are cool with that) so it will go 2 docs -> 1
>> >>doc.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> On 9/3/12 1:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" ** wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >love it
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Mike Reinstein
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I've had a
>> >>chance
>> >> to
>> >> > >> > review
>> >> > >> > >> >>>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>docs
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> more carefully. I'm really impressed with how well
>> >> > >>written
>> >> > >> > they
>> >> > >> > >> >>>are.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>What I
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> *think* makes the most sense is to consolidate into
>> >> fewer
>> >> > >> > >> >>>documents
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>so
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>that
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> it's not necessary to look at so many seperate
>> >>places.
>> >> > >> Here's
>> >> > >> > >> >>>what I
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> propose:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the cordova-plugin-spec into the
>> >> > >>alunny/pluginstall
>> >> > >> > >> >>>README.md
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * merge the command line tooling design doc into
>> the
>> >> > >> > >> >>>cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> README.md
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> * pull apart the cordova/PluginDesign wiki page and
>> >> merge
>> >> > >> > parts
>> >> > >> > >> >>>of it
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>into
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> the above 2 docs
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> I think what this gets us is 2 docs instead of 5,
>> >>and
>> >> it
>> >> > >> still
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>maintains
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> the nice loose coupling between alunny's
>> pluginstall
>> >> > >>utility
>> >> > >> > and
>> >> > >> > >> >>>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>larger
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> cordova-client. I'm assuming this separation was
>> the
>> >> > >> original
>> >> > >> > >> >>>intent,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> rather than having one monolithic tool.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> Would love feedback on this, I don't want to waste
>> >>time
>> >> > >> doing
>> >> > >> > it
>> >> > >> > >> >>>and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>find
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> out this isn't appropriate. :)
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Filip Maj
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >> wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> Cordova-client depends on pluginstall. Pluginstall
>> >> does
>> >> > >>the
>> >> > >> > >> hard
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>work
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>for
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> programmatic plugin installation, which is just
>> >>one of
>> >> > >>the
>> >> > >> > apis
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>available
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> in cordova-client. So, cordova=client "shells out"
>> >>to
>> >> > >> > >> >>>pluginstall.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> The client also handles app creation, platform
>> >> > >> > >> >>>removal/addition, and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> interpolating information from app's config.xml
>> >>into
>> >> the
>> >> > >> > >> >>>necessary
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>spots
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> in each native project.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> On 8/31/12 12:32 PM, "Mike Reinstein" <
>> >> > >> > >> reinstein.mike@gmail.com>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >Hey Filip,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >One thing I"m curious about, whats the difference
>> >> > >>between
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >https://github.com/alunny/pluginstall and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>>
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >there seems to be some overlap there. Is
>> >>pluginstall
>> >> a
>> >> > >> > subset
>> >> > >> > >> >>>of
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >functionality just related to plugins that has
>> >>moved
>> >> > >>into
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >or
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >is it different?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >It seems like cordova-client is the most mature
>> >> > >>codebase
>> >> > >> > that
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>incorporates
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >a lot of ideas, so I'm just chasing down code I'm
>> >> > >>finding
>> >> > >> to
>> >> > >> > >> >>>see if
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >everythign is in cordova-client or not. Said
>> >> > >>differently,
>> >> > >> is
>> >> > >> > >> it
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>safe
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>to
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >assume that just about all the worthwhile code is
>> >>in
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>cordova-client?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >-Mike
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Filip Maj
>> >> > >>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> All looks good to me Mike.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> I think the "PluginDesign" wiki article would
>> >>be a
>> >> > >>great
>> >> > >> > >> >>>place to
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> summarize / revamp all this info. Appreciate
>> you
>> >> > >> tackling
>> >> > >> > >> >>>this!
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> On 8/31/12 11:59 AM, "Mike Reinstein"
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >Hey Filip, Brian:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I think where I'd like to start is on
>> >> > >>documentation. I
>> >> > >> > may
>> >> > >> > >> >>>be
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>wrong
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>about
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >this, but it seems like there are bits and
>> >>pieces
>> >> of
>> >> > >> docs
>> >> > >> > >> in
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>various
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >places, and some may be stale or irrelevant.
>> >> Maybe a
>> >> > >> good
>> >> > >> > >> >>>start
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>is
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>for
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>me
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >to find all these pieces, consolidate into a
>> >> > >>"master"
>> >> > >> > >> >>>document,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>cull
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out the outdated bits? As a start, here's my
>> >> > >>rephrasing
>> >> > >> > of
>> >> > >> > >> >>>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>various
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >links, etc that you've sent to me. Please take
>> >>a
>> >> > >>look
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> > >> >>>let me
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>know
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>if
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I've characterised the content/purpose of
>> these
>> >> > >>various
>> >> > >> > >> >>>links:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*The spec for how plugins are declared is
>> here:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >The implementation that manages plugin usage
>> is
>> >> > >>here:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This project encompasses more than just
>> plugins
>> >> > >>because
>> >> > >> > it
>> >> > >> > >> >>>also
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>handles
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >everything related to building, deploying, and
>> >> > >>managing
>> >> > >> > >> >>>cordova
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >applications
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >These plugins are most popular, and should
>> >>ideally
>> >> > >>work
>> >> > >> > >> >>>with the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >cordova-client implemenation:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >http://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This implementation by Drew was an initial
>> >>proof
>> >> of
>> >> > >> > >> concept,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>which
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>only
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >works for blackberry and has been abandoned in
>> >> > >>favor of
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>cordova-client,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >with much of his ideas having made it into
>> >> > >> > cordova-client:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> https://github.com/deedubbu/cordova-blackberry-pluggable
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some info on the format of
>> >>the
>> >> > >> command
>> >> > >> > >> >>>line
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>interface
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >directory structure of cordova-client:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >This doc contains some documentation on Drew's
>> >>old
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>implementation,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>is
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >out of date now:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >I want to emphasize that I'm just trying to
>> >>get a
>> >> > >> handle
>> >> > >> > on
>> >> > >> > >> >>>what
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>docs
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>are
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >relevant and which links contain what. I'm not
>> >> > >>judging
>> >> > >> > >> >>>anyone's
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>work or
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >anything like that. :) If I've got the wrong
>> >>idea
>> >> > >>about
>> >> > >> > >> what
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>these
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>links
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >represent or contain, _please_ let me know.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >-Mike
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >*
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Filip Maj <
>> >> > >> > fil@adobe.com>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> The cordova client CLI tooling top-level
>> >>project
>> >> > >>goes
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>hand-in-hand
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>with
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> this spec. Code here:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >>
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cordova-labs.git;a=s
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>h
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>or
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> tlog;h=refs/heads/cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Essentially: vet the spec out to make sure
>> >> popular
>> >> > >> > >> >>>plugins out
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>in the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>wild
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> (see github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins)
>> >>work
>> >> > >>with
>> >> > >> > >> this
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>spec.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>Do
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> we
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>need
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> to account for anything else?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I think the one outstanding question is how
>> >>to
>> >> > >>handle
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>installation /
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> compatibility with different versions of
>> >> cordova.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Documentation for the tool as well as the
>> >>spec
>> >> > >>(put
>> >> > >> it
>> >> > >> > on
>> >> > >> > >> >>>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wiki,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> perhaps) would be awesome!
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 8/25/12 10:23 AM, "Mike Reinstein"
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Hi Brian, Filip,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Thanks for the pointers to those projects.
>> >>I'd
>> >> > >>love
>> >> > >> to
>> >> > >> > >> >>>dig in
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>start
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >helping, where do you feel the most help is
>> >> > >>needed
>> >> > >> at
>> >> > >> > >> the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>moment?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >Documentation? Any specific code tasks?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >-Mike
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Filip Maj
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> Also, this is the current de-facto plugin
>> >> > >>"spec"
>> >> > >> we
>> >> > >> > >> are
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>working
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>towards:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> https://github.com/alunny/cordova-plugin-spec
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> On 8/6/12 8:20 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <
>> >> b@brian.io>
>> >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Hi Mike, you've come to the right place!
>> >> > >> Currently
>> >> > >> > >> the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>plugin
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>tooling
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >is being implemented by Anis, Fil,
>> >>Michael,
>> >> > >>and
>> >> > >> > >> >>>myself.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>(sorry
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>for
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >delayed response / many of us are on a
>> >> summer
>> >> > >> break
>> >> > >> > >> >>>after
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>shipping
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >2.0)
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >We're loosely collaborating using this
>> >>list,
>> >> > >>git,
>> >> > >> > and
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>these
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>wiki
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>pages:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >-
>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/PluginDesign
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >-
>> >> > >> > >> >>>http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >The dev is taking place a Cordova/Labs
>> >> branch
>> >> > >> which
>> >> > >> > >> >>>you
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>can
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>preview
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>on
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >the Github mirror here:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-cordova-labs/tree/cordova-client
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >You will want to start by reading up on
>> >>our
>> >> > >> contrib
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>process
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>in
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>wiki:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributerWorkflow
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >And in the case of labs projects
>> >>everything
>> >> > >>stays
>> >> > >> > on
>> >> > >> > >> >>>its
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>own
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>branch
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >until such a time that we feel its solid
>> >>for
>> >> > >>its
>> >> > >> > own
>> >> > >> > >> >>>repo.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >* * *
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >Let me know any q's!
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Mike
>> >> > >>Reinstein
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hey there,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I'm interested in contributing to the
>> >> plugin
>> >> > >> > system
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>that is
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>forthcoming. Is
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> this the right place to bring it up?
>> >>Who
>> >> are
>> >> > >> the
>> >> > >> > >> >>>right
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>people
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>to
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>talk
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>to?
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Where do you need the most help? I'm
>> an
>> >> > >> > experienced
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>developer,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>have
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>worked
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> on a few phonegap based projects, and
>> >> would
>> >> > >> love
>> >> > >> > to
>> >> > >> > >> >>>give
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>back
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>to
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>the
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> community.
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> cheers,
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -Mike
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>> >>
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >> >>>
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >>
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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