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From Filip Maj <...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: [Android] Android versioning phase-out (2.1 and 3.x)??
Date Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:32:40 GMT
Pre-emptive deprecation! I like it!

On 9/18/12 11:27 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:

>I think if we're waiting 6 months, it would be good to deprecate 3.x now.
>That way in 6 months if we want to drop it, we can.
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, How about we do the following:
>>
>> 1. Announce that 2.1 will be dropped six months from now, as per our
>> deprecation policy
>> 2. Keep support for Android 3.x for the time being and watch to see
>> the percentages drop
>>
>> Honestly, I think our deprecation policy is far too long, but given
>> how it was created, I understand the reason for it.  What do people
>> think?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Brooks
>> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 1. We are having a tough time finding and keeping Android 2.1 devices
>> >> (most get upgraded to 2.3 or just die)
>> >
>> >
>> > This is a pain-point that I've felt many times. When I have found a
>> device,
>> > there are enough "quirks" on the browser that it's not worth the
>> > development time to support the small percentage of users. Usually,
>>I've
>> > end up supporting 2.3+.
>> >
>> > +1 for dropping 2.1.
>> >
>> > I'll abstain from voting on Honeycomb because I have very little
>> experience
>> > with that tablet / Android OS.
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Braden Shepherdson
>><braden@chromium.org
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> If manufacturers and carriers are rescuing the Galaxy Tabs (the only
>> >> Honeycomb device with any real penetration, I think) then we can
>>justify
>> >> dropping support for it eventually. On the other hand, if the only
>>thing
>> >> stopping it is hardware acceleration, we could easily turn hardware
>> >> acceleration back on and have a "how to fix Honeycomb" doc as Andrew
>> >> suggested.
>> >>
>> >> +1 to dropping 2.1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > +1 for dropping 2.1
>> >> > +1 for dropping 3.whatever-it-was honeycomb
>> >> >
>> >> > ...in 2.2 or should we issue a general warning and wait a couple of
>> >> > releases?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> > > Apparently the wifi tablets were only updated last week to ICS
>>(the
>> 3G
>> >> > > updates came first). Also, manual update:
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-p7510-android-4-0-4-ics-u
>>elpl-update-official-110369/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>> >> > >> Verizon just announced today (yes today!):
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/17/verizon-galaxy-tab-10-1-ice-cream
>>-sandwich-update-rolling-out-now/
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> T-mobile announced 2 weeks back:
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/03/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-andro
>>id-ics-update/
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Apparently its available in Canada since end of August 2012:
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.androidcentral.com/telus-bell-and-rogers-samsung-galaxy-tab-10
>>1-andoid-404-updates-now-available
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> 
>>http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Gener
>>alCareSupport/message-id/355
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Simon MacDonald
>> >> > >> <simon.macdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>> Me either. My Galaxy 10.1 Tab is still running 3.1.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Simon Mac Donald
>> >> > >>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>>> Funny, I never got that update.
>> >> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2012 5:34 PM, "Anis KADRI" <anis.kadri@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>> Talking about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Anis KADRI <
>> anis.kadri@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> > That was last year and Samsung has updated
them to 4.0.3
>>:-)
>> >> > >>>>> >
>> >> > >>>>> >
>> >> > >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Joe Bowser
<
>> bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>>>> >
>> >> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Brion
Vibber <
>> >> > bvibber@wikimedia.org>
>> >> > >>>>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>> >> >
>> >> > >>>>> >> > I would not mind dropping 2.1; our
apps for Wikipedia
>>have
>> >> been
>> >> > 2.2+
>> >> > >>>>> >> anyway
>> >> > >>>>> >> > due to breakages in the 2.1 browser.
>> >> > >>>>> >> >
>> >> > >>>>> >> > 3/3.2 would be slightly sad to miss
only because there
>>are
>> >> > Honeycomb
>> >> > >>>>> >> > tablets that haven't received ICS
updates, including my
>> Galaxy
>> >> > Tab
>> >> > >>>>> 10.1
>> >> > >>>>> >> but
>> >> > >>>>> >> > ... let's be honest there's not
a lot of them out there.
>> I'm
>> >> > not sure
>> >> > >>>>> >> how
>> >> > >>>>> >> > to blacklist those particular versions
in the
>> AndroidManifest
>> >> > however
>> >> > >>>>> >> while
>> >> > >>>>> >> > still being compatible with 2.2/2.3...
>> >> > >>>>> >> >
>> >> > >>>>> >>
>> >> > >>>>> >> That's a very good point.  I'm almost
convinced that the
>>3.1
>> on
>> >> > >>>>> >> Google's dashboard is literally the Samsung
Galaxy Tab
>>10.1
>> >> > devices
>> >> > >>>>> >> that Google gave away at IO a couple
of years ago that
>>were
>> >> pretty
>> >> > >>>>> >> much orphaned by Samsung because they
had a broken build.
>> >> > >>>>> >>
>> >> > >>>>> >> By far, Honeycomb was probably the worst
version of
>>Android
>> >> ever,
>> >> > and
>> >> > >>>>> >> I've been using it since 1.0 and remember
how bad 2.0 was
>> when
>> >> it
>> >> > >>>>> >> first came out on the Droid/Milestone.
 We can't even
>> deprecate
>> >> it
>> >> > >>>>> >> cleanly.
>> >> > >>>>> >>
>> >> > >>>>> >
>> >> > >>>>> >
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>


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