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From Mike Reinstein <>
Subject Re: Better real time communication
Date Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:24:38 GMT
Makes sense to me. I have no problems with "the Apache Way" in this case.
Especially since it opens up more flexible means of collaborating that
don't exclude/alienate anyone on the dev team. We just have to be diligent
about scribing those notes back here.


On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jukka Zitting <>wrote:

> Hi,
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Mike Reinstein
> <> wrote:
> > So is it common practice/OK to have a scribe keep meeting points and
> bring
> > them back to a mailing list thread?
> Yes, that's fine. Some Apache projects do that, others rely only on
> the mailing list.
> The important point to remember here is that a consensus reached on an
> off-list discussion only covers the participants of that discussion,
> not the entire community. That's why it's important to bring all
> decisions and other important matters back to the list where everyone
> has a chance to raise objections or suggest alternatives.
> PS. The reason why such rules are Apache policies is long experience
> of community problems caused if not everyone has a chance to
> participate in important discussions. Sometimes it may sound like some
> of such policies exist just to make life harder, but there's always a
> good reason behind them. It's also fine to question a policy and even
> suggest that it be changed if you don't see or understand the
> rationale behind it (perhaps the original concern no longer applies).
> That's the way the ASF evolves and adapts to the ever-changing
> environment.
> BR,
> Jukka Zitting

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