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From Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: [Android] Android versioning phase-out (2.1 and 3.x)??
Date Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:27:09 GMT
I think if we're waiting 6 months, it would be good to deprecate 3.x now.
That way in 6 months if we want to drop it, we can.


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, How about we do the following:
>
> 1. Announce that 2.1 will be dropped six months from now, as per our
> deprecation policy
> 2. Keep support for Android 3.x for the time being and watch to see
> the percentages drop
>
> Honestly, I think our deprecation policy is far too long, but given
> how it was created, I understand the reason for it.  What do people
> think?
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Michael Brooks
> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> 1. We are having a tough time finding and keeping Android 2.1 devices
> >> (most get upgraded to 2.3 or just die)
> >
> >
> > This is a pain-point that I've felt many times. When I have found a
> device,
> > there are enough "quirks" on the browser that it's not worth the
> > development time to support the small percentage of users. Usually, I've
> > end up supporting 2.3+.
> >
> > +1 for dropping 2.1.
> >
> > I'll abstain from voting on Honeycomb because I have very little
> experience
> > with that tablet / Android OS.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Braden Shepherdson <braden@chromium.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> If manufacturers and carriers are rescuing the Galaxy Tabs (the only
> >> Honeycomb device with any real penetration, I think) then we can justify
> >> dropping support for it eventually. On the other hand, if the only thing
> >> stopping it is hardware acceleration, we could easily turn hardware
> >> acceleration back on and have a "how to fix Honeycomb" doc as Andrew
> >> suggested.
> >>
> >> +1 to dropping 2.1
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1 for dropping 2.1
> >> > +1 for dropping 3.whatever-it-was honeycomb
> >> >
> >> > ...in 2.2 or should we issue a general warning and wait a couple of
> >> > releases?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Apparently the wifi tablets were only updated last week to ICS (the
> 3G
> >> > > updates came first). Also, manual update:
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-p7510-android-4-0-4-ics-uelpl-update-official-110369/
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> > >> Verizon just announced today (yes today!):
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/17/verizon-galaxy-tab-10-1-ice-cream-sandwich-update-rolling-out-now/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> T-mobile announced 2 weeks back:
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/03/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-android-ics-update/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Apparently its available in Canada since end of August 2012:
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.androidcentral.com/telus-bell-and-rogers-samsung-galaxy-tab-101-andoid-404-updates-now-available
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/GeneralCareSupport/message-id/355
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Simon MacDonald
> >> > >> <simon.macdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> Me either. My Galaxy 10.1 Tab is still running 3.1.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Simon Mac Donald
> >> > >>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>> Funny, I never got that update.
> >> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2012 5:34 PM, "Anis KADRI" <anis.kadri@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> Talking about the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Anis KADRI <
> anis.kadri@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> > That was last year and Samsung has updated them
to 4.0.3 :-)
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Joe Bowser <
> bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Brion Vibber
<
> >> > bvibber@wikimedia.org>
> >> > >>>>> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>>> >> >
> >> > >>>>> >> > I would not mind dropping 2.1; our apps
for Wikipedia have
> >> been
> >> > 2.2+
> >> > >>>>> >> anyway
> >> > >>>>> >> > due to breakages in the 2.1 browser.
> >> > >>>>> >> >
> >> > >>>>> >> > 3/3.2 would be slightly sad to miss
only because there are
> >> > Honeycomb
> >> > >>>>> >> > tablets that haven't received ICS updates,
including my
> Galaxy
> >> > Tab
> >> > >>>>> 10.1
> >> > >>>>> >> but
> >> > >>>>> >> > ... let's be honest there's not a lot
of them out there.
> I'm
> >> > not sure
> >> > >>>>> >> how
> >> > >>>>> >> > to blacklist those particular versions
in the
> AndroidManifest
> >> > however
> >> > >>>>> >> while
> >> > >>>>> >> > still being compatible with 2.2/2.3...
> >> > >>>>> >> >
> >> > >>>>> >>
> >> > >>>>> >> That's a very good point.  I'm almost convinced
that the 3.1
> on
> >> > >>>>> >> Google's dashboard is literally the Samsung
Galaxy Tab 10.1
> >> > devices
> >> > >>>>> >> that Google gave away at IO a couple of years
ago that were
> >> pretty
> >> > >>>>> >> much orphaned by Samsung because they had
a broken build.
> >> > >>>>> >>
> >> > >>>>> >> By far, Honeycomb was probably the worst
version of Android
> >> ever,
> >> > and
> >> > >>>>> >> I've been using it since 1.0 and remember
how bad 2.0 was
> when
> >> it
> >> > >>>>> >> first came out on the Droid/Milestone.  We
can't even
> deprecate
> >> it
> >> > >>>>> >> cleanly.
> >> > >>>>> >>
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>>
> >> >
> >>
>

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