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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:12:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: [ATTN MENTOR] Re: DISCUSS: Ripple as a sub-project of Cordova
From: Michael Brooks <michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
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I'm happy with Ripple existing as a standalone or sub-project. In either
case, Apache Cordova will be able to consume and commit back to the project.

It's no secret that the purpose of Apache Cordova is to accelerate the Web
as a first-class application platform. As browsers mature and operating
systems embrace the Web, Apache Cordova can gradually step-aside. However,
that doesn't mean that the project will die off as browsers and operating
systems begin to offer the Web access to more APIs. Apache Cordova is a
source of app development education, best practices, and tools. Tools for
developing, packaging, and debugging Web applications across the wide range
of platforms. This is where projects such as Weinre and Ripple become
extremely valuable. They don't necessarily need to be under the Cordova
project, but they need to be accessible to the project and its community.

Michael

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Dan Silivestru
<dan.silivestru@gmail.com>wrote:

> +1
>
> And am starting to lean towards Ripple not being a sub-project of Cordova
> just because of the different platforms that is support. The current
> product (http://github.com/blackberry/Ripple-UI) support WebWorks
> (handheld, PlayBook, and BB10), Cordova 2.0.0 and of course the mobile web
> (no APIs). There are forks out there for Tizen and WAC 2.0 which I think I
> would like to see pulled back into the project. It not being firmly tied to
> Cordova might help with that.
>
> Although, I think I'm also looking at the community here to help us sort
> out the best fit for Ripple.
>
> I also wanted to re-iterate Laurent's point about us being 100% committed
> to the development efforts for Ripple, this will definitely not be a code
> dump into Apache, we will continue our development efforts on it and if
> anything increase our efforts :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dan Silivestru.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > I am agnostic on whether or not Ripple should be a Cordova sub-project. I
> > think it is more of a question of perception. What's important to me is
> > that it makes it into Apache in one form or another!
> >
> > On 7/24/12 6:15 PM, "Laurent Hasson" <lhasson@rim.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Paul,
> > >
> > >Do you know if there is any intention for Tizen to support Cordova APIs?
> > >This is very interesting, and I suppose there might also be interest for
> > >FirefoxOS APIs?
> > >
> > >This would certainly put a new spin on Ripple and may go along Ross'
> > >initial comment about Ripple maybe being not just about Cordova. This
> has
> > >been my (limited) thinking so far, but there is certainly a great deal
> of
> > >opportunities if that type of extension makes sense.
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank You
> > >------------------------------------------------
> > >- LDH (Laurent Hasson)                         -
> > >- Technical Director, BlackBerry Web Platform  -
> > >- Research In Motion                           -
> > >- Email: lhasson@rim.com                       -
> > >- Mobile: 646-460-7066                         -
> > >- Twitter: @ldhasson                           -
> > >------------------------------------------------
> > >"Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a
> > >system of government" - Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Paul Plaquette [mailto:paul.plaquette@intel.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:26 AM
> > >To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >Subject: Re: [ATTN MENTOR] Re: DISCUSS: Ripple as a sub-project of
> Cordova
> > >
> > >hi ,
> > >
> > >the Ripple source code is also the base for the tizen web simulator that
> > >is integrated in the tizen sdk [1]
> > >
> > >tizen web simulator is also available to open source community [2] on
> > >intel 01.org [3] web site.
> > >
> > >currently the idea is to add tizen web apis: specific tizen api, but
> > >also all standard apis that tizen is going to have from several sources
> > >(W3C, Khronos group etc...) - tizen documentation describes all this in
> > >details [4]
> > >
> > >may be something could be combined in adding cordova support in ripple?
> > >
> > >Paul
> > >
> > >[1] https://www.tizen.org/
> > >[2] https://01.org/web-simulator/about
> > >[3] https://01.org/
> > >[4] https://developer.tizen.org/documentation
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Paul Plaquette
> > >Senior Software Engineer
> > >Open Source Technology Center
> > >Intel Corp.,Montpellier, France
> > >
> > >
> > >On 07/22/2012 12:14 AM, Filip Maj wrote:
> > >> I am very excited about this!
> > >>
> > >> The cordova suite of projects have never addressed emulation and my
> > >>go-to
> > >> has always been Ripple.
> > >>
> > >> If there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
> > >>
> > >> Mentors (Jukka?): other than setting up a repository, do you foresee
> any
> > >> issues with moving ahead with this? At the minimum I understand an
> audit
> > >> of the code and decoupling existing code from RIM-specific stuff is a
> > >> necessity, as well as a license audit (RAT tool), but, any other
> issues
> > >> you foresee or any recommendations/guidance on moving this forward
> that
> > >> our community could help with?
> > >>
> > >> On 7/20/12 4:20 PM, "Gord Tanner" <gtanner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> RIM has done a lot of work in Ripple to support the Cordova
> (PhoneGap)
> > >>> platform, now having almost full support for all of the platform
> APIs.
> > >>>
> > >>> We(RIM) believes that the natural home for Ripple is in the Apache
> > >>> Software
> > >>> Foundation as a sub-project of Cordova and we want to contribute
> > >>>Ripple to
> > >>> the ASF. However, this is the first time we are doing something like
> > >>>this
> > >>> and the entire company is focused on our BB10 delivery.
> > >>>
> > >>> We have been working very closely with the former Nitobi guys and
> will
> > >>> also
> > >>> work closely with the Cordova community. We hope to have the support
> > >>> needed
> > >>> in this community to help us find the best way to make this happen.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you are wondering what ripple is you can see the code here:
> > >>> https://github.com/blackberry/Ripple-UI
> > >>
> > >>
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