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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: [ATTN MENTOR] Re: DISCUSS: Ripple as a sub-project of Cordova
Date Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:21:27 GMT
On 30 July 2012 16:56, Michael Brooks <> wrote:
> If Ripple was donated as a standalone project, then a shared
> general@mailing-list between Cordova and Ripple would be very nice.

IMHO such lists don't (often) make sense. Jukka made the suggestion
using Hadoop as an example of a consortium of projects. However, there
is (to my knowledge - Jukka will correct me if I'm wrong) no such list
for Hadoop.

What topics would need to be discussed on a general mailing list
between the two projects which could not be adequately carried out on
the more focused project list?

Unless there is a very surprising answer to the above question, the
way I see it the options are...

  - Ripple as a sub-project of Cordova with all development on
cordova-dev (potential for too much non-cordova discussion) - example
lucene and friends

  - Ripple as a new podling with all development on ripple-dev and
cordova-dev (interested cordova and ripple devs cross-subscribe) -
example hadoop and friends

Remember, this is only my opinion based on my observations of what
works in the ASF today - the ASF is a flexible place. Changes to old
approaches can be adopted when good reason to do so is presented.


> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Ross Gardler <>wrote:
>> On 30 July 2012 15:06, Jukka Zitting <> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:18 PM,  <> wrote:
>> >> I sometimes see cordova not as a specific platform (or set of APIs) but
>> as a leader
>> >> in the open mobile web.  If we are able to step away from the idea of
>> cordova being
>> >> a singular platform but the bleeding edge of mobile web r & d it makes
>> sense to
>> >> have ripple be a part of that.
>> >
>> > A good example of how such a vision is being realized at the ASF is
>> > the Hadoop project that has given birth to a growing ecosystem of
>> > related cloud and big data projects at and around the ASF. Instead of
>> > Hadoop hosting related projects like HBase, Pig, ZooKeeper, etc. as
>> > subprojects under a single PMC, it simply acts as a central focus
>> > point for a larger cluster of projects.
>> >
>> > I'd love to see Cordova increasingly position itself as such a focus
>> > point for mobile web projects both within and outside the ASF.
>> +1
>> > One
>> > concrete idea towards such a goal could be to start a general@ mailing
>> > list as a shared forum like the one Hadoop has for discussions that
>> > reach beyond the boundaries of individual projects or codebases.
>> I'm not sure we're ready for that yet. What other projects would be
>> interested in this?
>> Possibly Wookie (W3C Widget engine), others?
>> Ross
>> --
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>> OpenDirective

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)

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