Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80990DC45 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25078 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jun 2012 20:46:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25062 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jun 2012 20:46:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact callback-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25054 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jun 2012 20:46:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:46:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of fil@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.31 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.31] (HELO exprod6og113.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.31) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:46:28 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob113.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT+DlD7SLrZwO9ncb0XKo5dmcotjpYp2C@postini.com; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:46:07 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (ms-exchange.macromedia.com [153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q5JKk5X9003880 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas02.corp.adobe.com (nacas02.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.100]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q5JKk4vm022577 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.95]) by nacas02.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.100]) with mapi; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:46:04 -0700 From: Filip Maj To: "callback-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:47:12 -0700 Subject: Re: deprecation policy Thread-Topic: deprecation policy Thread-Index: Ac1OXItOyNXZb4MZR4iNT67huqg7kQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This all sounds reasonable. Shall we go ahead and employ this as "the policy" moving forward? Does it need a vote? On 6/19/12 12:34 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >perhaps we put a timestamp / date of deprecation in the warning too? > >On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Bryce Curtis >wrote: >> I agree that deprecation doesn't have to be tied to a major release, >> but we should definitely give enough advanced notice. 6 months is >> arbitrary, but sounds like a reasonable period. This carries the >> caveat that the deprecated item is documented and known so it's not a >> surprise to developers. So, if we consider the deprecation of "ctx" >> in Android plugin, it probably shouldn't be removed in 2.0, but in >> whatever release falls after Nov. This will minimize the pain to >> plugin developers, who are an important segment of our "customers". >> >> There may be instances where structural changes make it impossible to >> maintain deprecated APIs for the entire 6 month time, but I would >> consider this an exception and only if there's no way to maintain >> both. >> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Filip Maj wrote: >>> To me version numbers are just a label. It's more about exposure, >>> communication and documentation. >>> >>> If we employ the standard deprecation techniques for the native >>>platforms >>> enough ahead of time, blog about upcoming breaking changes, provide >>> tutorials and documentation for how to migrate, I am fine with it. >>> >>> On 6/18/12 3:25 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >>> >>>>We don't really have one tho I think we loosely follow Semantic >>>>Versioning. In Android-land we recently merged in CordovaView which >>>>has an API change which will break many plugins. In Semantic >>>>Versioning reality we are completely justified to kill an API in 2.x >>>>which would make a great deal of pain for plugin authors at that time. >>>>Major release, break all the things, seems bad. >>>> >>>>Anyhow, I'm thinking we look to create a policy that is time based. We >>>>make a change, its got 6 months of deprecation notices, and then its >>>>gone, regardless of version number. >>>> >>>>Thoughts? >>>