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From: Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:57:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Cordova and config.xml
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I'm still waiting for the first standards joke in this thread.

On 5/29/12 11:55 AM, "Gord Tanner" <gord@tinyhippos.com> wrote:

>Also we have npm's package.json as a manifest "standard" as well:
>http://npmjs.org/doc/json.html
>
>
>
>On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Drew Walters <deedubbu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was curious of the compatibility between Mozilla's App Manifest and
>> Google's Chrome Store Manifest. Found this handy comparison table
>> which I thought others might find useful:
>>
>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/ManfiestFormatComparison
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Michael Brooks
>> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote:
>> > @Fil thanks for pointing out the Mozilla's App Manfiest!
>> >
>> > @Ken I think prudent that Apache Cordova listen to BlackBerry's
>> experience
>> > with the widget spec. We're both using it in similar ways and Apache
>> > Cordova will likely hit the same areas for customization. Ken, can you
>> > elaborate on how BB10 will be deviating even further? Is there a link
>>out
>> > there?
>> >
>> > Regardless of what we choose, we don't want to invent our own app
>> manifest
>> > "standard" and so it's worth reviewing the two that are out there.
>>Below
>> > are the spec links.
>> >
>> > W3C Configuration Document (config.xml):
>> > http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#configuration-document
>> >
>> > BlackBerry WebWorks config.xml:
>> >
>>=20
>>https://developer.blackberry.com/html5/documentation/ww_developing/workin
>>g_with_config_xml_file_1866970_11.html
>> >
>> > Mozilla App Manifest:
>> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Apps/Manifest
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Ken Wallis <kwallis@rim.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Laurent and I were just chatting about this.  Certainly feel that we
>> >> should have a common shared format for application metadata.  Default
>> >> option would be to look at the W3C widget spec which we all are or
>> already
>> >> have done in RIM's case. ;)
>> >>
>> >> That said, you know that we have gone past the spec already, and with
>> BB10
>> >> we will have to go even farther down the custom namespace route.  We
>> (RIM)
>> >> may need to actively diverge on some concepts that might have Widget
>> >> equivalents but just don't map properly (Not sure yet, but starting
>>to
>> get
>> >> a feeling...)  I would suspect that Cordova will need custom
>>elements as
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> Do we ask the question then, is this still the right choice, use
>>widget
>> >> spec as a basis and expand where needed?  Use it as inspiration, but
>> not be
>> >> beholden to it?  Something completely custom, or aligned with other
>> >> initiatives like Mozilla?
>> >>
>> >> Lots of questions... ;)
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Ken Wallis
>> >>
>> >> Product Manager =AD BlackBerry WebWorks
>> >>
>> >> Research In Motion
>> >>
>> >> (905) 629-4746 x14369
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________________
>> >> From: Filip Maj [fil@adobe.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:02 PM
>> >> To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Cordova and config.xml
>> >>
>> >> Just want to point out too that mozilla has/is working on their
>> equivalent
>> >> of config.xml
>> >>
>> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Apps/Manifest
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JSON! :r
>> >>
>> >> On 5/29/12 10:57 AM, "Shazron" <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I concur - we had this discussion sometime ago but with respect to
>>the
>> >> >whitelist, and eventually decided to support access tags in
>>config.xml
>> to
>> >> >consolidate all the platforms. We didn't have a plan then on when to
>> >> >include this feature. Not seeing it in the Roadmap though pre-2.0 or
>> even
>> >> >for 2.0: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/RoadmapProjects
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Brooks
>> >> ><michael@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> From my understanding, yes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> PhoneGap Build currently uses it (not as extensively as BB) to
>> describe
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> app's metadata and configuration (access, permissions, etc).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My understanding is that as we build out the CLI for Apache
>>Cordova,
>> >> >>then
>> >> >> config.xml support will be added.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michael
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gord Tanner <gtanner@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hey,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am wondering if cordova is going to continue aligning to the
>>W3C
>> >> >> > config.xml?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Unless I am mistaken it looks like BlackBerry and PlayBook are
>>the
>> >> >>only
>> >> >> > platforms that are currently using it.  Is there plans to use
>> >> >>config.xml
>> >> >> > more cross platform?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
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>Gord Tanner
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