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From Andrew Lunny <alu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Cordova and config.xml
Date Tue, 29 May 2012 19:47:50 GMT
Tobie Langel of Facebook/W3C had a good survey:
http://blog.tobie.me/post/14262541286/app-manifests-an-anthology

The standard appears to be to invent your own format.

On 29 May 2012 12:00, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I was just looking at npm's package.json as well.
>
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm still waiting for the first standards joke in this thread.
> >
> > On 5/29/12 11:55 AM, "Gord Tanner" <gord@tinyhippos.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Also we have npm's package.json as a manifest "standard" as well:
> > >http://npmjs.org/doc/json.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Drew Walters <deedubbu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I was curious of the compatibility between Mozilla's App Manifest and
> > >> Google's Chrome Store Manifest. Found this handy comparison table
> > >> which I thought others might find useful:
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Apps/ManfiestFormatComparison
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Michael Brooks
> > >> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote:
> > >> > @Fil thanks for pointing out the Mozilla's App Manfiest!
> > >> >
> > >> > @Ken I think prudent that Apache Cordova listen to BlackBerry's
> > >> experience
> > >> > with the widget spec. We're both using it in similar ways and Apache
> > >> > Cordova will likely hit the same areas for customization. Ken, can
> you
> > >> > elaborate on how BB10 will be deviating even further? Is there a
> link
> > >>out
> > >> > there?
> > >> >
> > >> > Regardless of what we choose, we don't want to invent our own app
> > >> manifest
> > >> > "standard" and so it's worth reviewing the two that are out there.
> > >>Below
> > >> > are the spec links.
> > >> >
> > >> > W3C Configuration Document (config.xml):
> > >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#configuration-document
> > >> >
> > >> > BlackBerry WebWorks config.xml:
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://developer.blackberry.com/html5/documentation/ww_developing/workin
> > >>g_with_config_xml_file_1866970_11.html
> > >> >
> > >> > Mozilla App Manifest:
> > >> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Apps/Manifest
> > >> >
> > >> > Michael
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Ken Wallis <kwallis@rim.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Laurent and I were just chatting about this.  Certainly feel that
> we
> > >> >> should have a common shared format for application metadata.
>  Default
> > >> >> option would be to look at the W3C widget spec which we all are
or
> > >> already
> > >> >> have done in RIM's case. ;)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> That said, you know that we have gone past the spec already, and
> with
> > >> BB10
> > >> >> we will have to go even farther down the custom namespace route.
>  We
> > >> (RIM)
> > >> >> may need to actively diverge on some concepts that might have
> Widget
> > >> >> equivalents but just don't map properly (Not sure yet, but starting
> > >>to
> > >> get
> > >> >> a feeling...)  I would suspect that Cordova will need custom
> > >>elements as
> > >> >> well.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Do we ask the question then, is this still the right choice, use
> > >>widget
> > >> >> spec as a basis and expand where needed?  Use it as inspiration,
> but
> > >> not be
> > >> >> beholden to it?  Something completely custom, or aligned with
other
> > >> >> initiatives like Mozilla?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Lots of questions... ;)
> > >> >> --
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ken Wallis
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Product Manager ­ BlackBerry WebWorks
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Research In Motion
> > >> >>
> > >> >> (905) 629-4746 x14369
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ________________________________________
> > >> >> From: Filip Maj [fil@adobe.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:02 PM
> > >> >> To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> >> Subject: Re: Cordova and config.xml
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Just want to point out too that mozilla has/is working on their
> > >> equivalent
> > >> >> of config.xml
> > >> >>
> > >> >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Apps/Manifest
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> JSON! :r
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 5/29/12 10:57 AM, "Shazron" <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >I concur - we had this discussion sometime ago but with respect
to
> > >>the
> > >> >> >whitelist, and eventually decided to support access tags in
> > >>config.xml
> > >> to
> > >> >> >consolidate all the platforms. We didn't have a plan then
on when
> to
> > >> >> >include this feature. Not seeing it in the Roadmap though
pre-2.0
> or
> > >> even
> > >> >> >for 2.0: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/RoadmapProjects
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Brooks
> > >> >> ><michael@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> From my understanding, yes.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> PhoneGap Build currently uses it (not as extensively
as BB) to
> > >> describe
> > >> >> >>the
> > >> >> >> app's metadata and configuration (access, permissions,
etc).
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> My understanding is that as we build out the CLI for
Apache
> > >>Cordova,
> > >> >> >>then
> > >> >> >> config.xml support will be added.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Michael
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gord Tanner <gtanner@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > Hey,
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I am wondering if cordova is going to continue aligning
to the
> > >>W3C
> > >> >> >> > config.xml?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Unless I am mistaken it looks like BlackBerry and
PlayBook are
> > >>the
> > >> >> >>only
> > >> >> >> > platforms that are currently using it.  Is there
plans to use
> > >> >> >>config.xml
> > >> >> >> > more cross platform?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
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