Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C60F1911E for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86379 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 22:22:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86262 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 22:22:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact callback-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 86253 invoked by uid 99); 13 Mar 2012 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:22:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of brian.leroux@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.175] (HELO mail-gx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.161.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:22:53 +0000 Received: by ggcy3 with SMTP id y3so1147276ggc.6 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TQ64q6I/B9Ik+3AjNffBjwK9KRm5f28sdtsS0vlCCMg=; b=WbhhG54DqYmTphsn09wC/+uw54Nw8YF7W1el8JlwC/nVTOL/I2NvAs+l+wnoV+UFgu krN312OaMoQXTkIiSK0PiYRLMLkHwhmKyjHhfnl5KuJexREvE80239XVNjvky9UWW7Vo Spy0UJj+QeMH80lNl6kxc0o4K63TmtNw4gRIsa6/GgshEbO9VWvzT/2vBX9ot6cqdN9h O4Enpp9KPTy7bBEwpAGNRmTH1Cx6oQf85vqtcYfSxe/ynhCSCCPPJAo8Hw8vyRPLec5t rOvfIBVJCgIrKj0mki8dLYzPzR05tH3ZRb5/HxgLuUAozCmgloUDcsfVa3NhPzwu4WGq k6WA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.28.137 with SMTP id b9mr235443oeh.57.1331677352686; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: brian.leroux@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.56.196 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:22:32 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WzbITaxJc-rvR4wma9PDqSb_RA0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [REVIEW] Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Mar 2012 From: Brian LeRoux To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > It's taking a bit longer than expected to produce an official Apache > release of Cordova. What do you feel are (and have been) the biggest > problems along the way? Oh just the usual overconfidence and optimism of a software developer! =) I do find the Apache documentation a little scattered and verbose. > AFAICT at least the IP review part has been a bit complicated. Do you > think better documentation of the requirements, more active > involvement by us mentors, or something else could have helped here? Our mentors have been super responsive and helpful so I couldn't ask for more there. Better docs would be the biggest thing in my mind. > Do you think some of the requirements were too strict and should > perhaps be challenged? Other feedback on how we could make the process > smoother? No, I like the formality of a release. I would not challenge this part of the Apache practice though I would encourage more cadence be a part of The Apache Way. Regular releases are absolutely a driver for adoption and confidence in our committers. > Another area of some confusion are the packaging and distribution bits > that especially Steven was looking at. The related ASF documentation > is arguably a bit fragmented and at times perhaps too verbose. Yup > Similarly to the above questions, any ideas on how we could/should > simplify these things? Actually, and I have no idea how we can do this, I think Apache could really use a solid IxD/UX person fulltime rework the docs to the benefit of all. The information is all there but parsing it is the tricky part.