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From Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apple rejecting apps that access the device's UUID
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:27:48 GMT
Yeah Bada 1.2 uses IMEI as uuid and Bada 2.0 will too. It sucks that Apple
locks that down but your guid+appid suggestion are the only option for now
I think.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Jesse MacFadyen <purplecabbage@gmail.com>wrote:

> Imei is not avail for the same reason as uuid isn't. At least on ios.
> I would expect any method of uniquely identifying a device to be
> locked down soon, even if it isn't yet.
> I wish apple would just hash the uuid and the appid, the only threat
> is really from ad provider sdks because they presumably get a deeper
> view of the device across multiple apps. uuid+appid would solve this,
> assuming a one way hash.
>
> I believe cordova Bada uses imei already. Anis?
>
> On WP7, an app will have the same virtual path regardless of what
> device it is on.  Security sandbox prevents querying the real path,
> although you can see it when debugging in vs, it is not accessible to
> code.
>
> Cheers,
>  Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPhone5
>
> On 2012-03-23, at 1:44 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > can you get access to the pkg name ala ios/android?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jesse MacFadyen
> > <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> iPads and iPods don't have phone numbers and there is no API to get it
> >> on iPhone.
> >>
> >> Same for nic and any other device specific value.
> >>
> >> Re: file path, is the guid per install, or is it really just a hash of
> >> deviceId and appId? Does it survive app updates? resync's?
> >>
> >> File path is not a guid on WP7, in fact it is unknown. Sandboxed
> wpapp://
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>  Jesse
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone5
> >>
> >> On 2012-03-23, at 1:23 PM, Bryce Curtis <curtis.bryce@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just an idea, but is there something else, like the phone number or
> MD5 of
> >>> it, that could be used - so you don't have to gen one and then stash it
> >>> around somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> like that idea shaz --- good symmetry
> >>>>
> >>>> really, the same could be said for all apps/platforms
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>> Here's an idea - since the app folder name is a GUID, we could just
> >>>>> use that? This will only "break" if Apple decides to not use GUIDs
> for
> >>>>> folder names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>> Yup - that is the only approach really. All the rest is
> implementation
> >>>>>> details (keychain or iCloud or some doohickey)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sounds like the WP7/GUID approach is the best we can do
for now.
> Back
> >>>> that
> >>>>>>> up with a new Quirk in the Device API documentation and
I think
> that's
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>> we can do, really.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 3/23/12 11:42 AM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> WP7 generates a guid if the device I'd is not available.
Guid is
> >>>>>>>> persistent and is only generated on first run. This
will not
> survive a
> >>>>>>>> re-install of the app, but does identify a particular
app
> >>>>>>>> installation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Jesse
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone5
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2012-03-23, at 11:31 AM, Michael Brooks <
> michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Darn.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any idea what we should do about `device.uuid`?
[1] It's a
> PhoneGap
> >>>>>>>>> homebrewed API.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> http://docs.phonegap.com/en/1.5.0/phonegap_device_device.md.html#device.u
> >>>>>>>>> uid
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> According to
> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/TheKevinDent/status/182540197769134080
> >>>>>>>>>> Prob because of the Path AddressBook fiasco.
Will accelerate
> this:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-49
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Will get it into 1.6.0 since this is will be
an big issue.
> Apple is
> >>>>>>>>>> sure keeping me busy working around their policies
/ bugs these
> >>>>>>>>>> days...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
>

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