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From Jesse MacFadyen <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apple rejecting apps that access the device's UUID
Date Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:04:28 GMT
Imei is not avail for the same reason as uuid isn't. At least on ios.
I would expect any method of uniquely identifying a device to be
locked down soon, even if it isn't yet.
I wish apple would just hash the uuid and the appid, the only threat
is really from ad provider sdks because they presumably get a deeper
view of the device across multiple apps. uuid+appid would solve this,
assuming a one way hash.

I believe cordova Bada uses imei already. Anis?

On WP7, an app will have the same virtual path regardless of what
device it is on.  Security sandbox prevents querying the real path,
although you can see it when debugging in vs, it is not accessible to
code.

Cheers,
  Jesse

Sent from my iPhone5

On 2012-03-23, at 1:44 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> can you get access to the pkg name ala ios/android?
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jesse MacFadyen
> <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
>> iPads and iPods don't have phone numbers and there is no API to get it
>> on iPhone.
>>
>> Same for nic and any other device specific value.
>>
>> Re: file path, is the guid per install, or is it really just a hash of
>> deviceId and appId? Does it survive app updates? resync's?
>>
>> File path is not a guid on WP7, in fact it is unknown. Sandboxed wpapp://
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Jesse
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone5
>>
>> On 2012-03-23, at 1:23 PM, Bryce Curtis <curtis.bryce@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just an idea, but is there something else, like the phone number or MD5 of
>>> it, that could be used - so you don't have to gen one and then stash it
>>> around somewhere.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> like that idea shaz --- good symmetry
>>>>
>>>> really, the same could be said for all apps/platforms
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here's an idea - since the app folder name is a GUID, we could just
>>>>> use that? This will only "break" if Apple decides to not use GUIDs for
>>>>> folder names.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yup - that is the only approach really. All the rest is implementation
>>>>>> details (keychain or iCloud or some doohickey)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> Sounds like the WP7/GUID approach is the best we can do for now.
Back
>>>> that
>>>>>>> up with a new Quirk in the Device API documentation and I think
that's
>>>> all
>>>>>>> we can do, really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/23/12 11:42 AM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WP7 generates a guid if the device I'd is not available.
Guid is
>>>>>>>> persistent and is only generated on first run. This will
not survive a
>>>>>>>> re-install of the app, but does identify a particular app
>>>>>>>> installation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jesse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone5
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2012-03-23, at 11:31 AM, Michael Brooks <michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Darn.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any idea what we should do about `device.uuid`? [1] It's
a PhoneGap
>>>>>>>>> homebrewed API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://docs.phonegap.com/en/1.5.0/phonegap_device_device.md.html#device.u
>>>>>>>>> uid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/TheKevinDent/status/182540197769134080
>>>>>>>>>> Prob because of the Path AddressBook fiasco. Will
accelerate this:
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-49
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will get it into 1.6.0 since this is will be an big
issue. Apple is
>>>>>>>>>> sure keeping me busy working around their policies
/ bugs these
>>>>>>>>>> days...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>

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