Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF9FC7DD4 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34569 invoked by uid 500); 23 Nov 2011 06:38:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-callback-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34490 invoked by uid 500); 23 Nov 2011 06:38:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact callback-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34480 invoked by uid 99); 23 Nov 2011 06:38:04 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:38:04 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of epelegrillopart@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.47] (HELO mail-yw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.213.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 06:37:58 +0000 Received: by ywb20 with SMTP id 20so919924ywb.6 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:37:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=LMtJ2Xslep3D6rOJgzIJ9q2Jo5gYAc3dzoOzaM3EwuM=; b=oCmixDkKXoUtsFKgf5bifkBGgPZc+LhgYqXQ6Nq2fNXn4IUN/XcAeYmI+rSJNrg06g 5kBD41spjbIVRpDMtgvIhwszFApkM6A8pKzBbIwdhC6l9C3OTtk/s6Cxz+Vi2656/GBP POqBGfuTCdNuiX72yvd/APdqJNFrXvxqLhRtI= Received: by 10.68.12.73 with SMTP id w9mr5160812pbb.6.1322030256050; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:37:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: pelegri@calterra.com Sender: epelegrillopart@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.50.169 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:37:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: eduardo pelegri-llopart Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:37:15 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7DrIy7L88KfecR6wT1epYhHVJcA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52158ddcb52ee04b26127e0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --bcaec52158ddcb52ee04b26127e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thinking a bit more about on my own reactions to "Cordova"... If the name ellicits a relationship with the city in Spain, the "v" jumps at me, but if it is a relationship with the street in Vancouver, then it's OK. A cute logo could create the Vancouver/Street association. Logos don't show in press releases, but they are very visible in web pages. - eduard/o On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Laurent Hasson wrote: > Hmmm are we over-thinking this a bit? I am for Cordoba myself, but > frankly, either is good, and so much better than anything else we have co= me > up with. > > Flip a coin? > > > ___________________________________________ > LDH (Laurent Hasson) > Technical Director, BlackBerry Web Platform > Research In Motion > Email: lhasson@rim.com > Mobile: 646-460-7066 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > "That's who you remind me of: an evil Mr. Rogers!" - Simon Phoenix > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Sent from my BlackBerry Torch! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ben Plowman [mailto:ben.plowman@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 09:28 PM > To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova > > An important consideration is that while many languages, including Englis= h, > tend to rename countries (Deutschland -> Germany, Espa=F1a -> Spain, > Nederland > -> The Netherlands), renaming cities is much less common. Berlin stays > Berlin, and the same is true of Madrid, Amsterdam, and so forth. Equally > important, in this specific case English-speakers still use "Cordoba." If > you Google "Cordova, Spain" (with the quotes), Google will ask you "Did y= ou > mean 'Cordoba, Spain'?". > > I really like that Cordova is the name of the street where Nitobi was bas= ed > and think that's a perfect basis for naming the project. It has a great > answer to the inevitable question "why is it called that?" which other > software projects (ahem, GNU) have done a poor job answering. Since far > more people have heard of Cordoba the city than have heard of Cordova the > street, it makes sense to keep the same great backstory and just change t= he > spelling slightly to better appeal to the majority to whom it sounds > peculiar. For those people, I suspect Cordova sounds a bit like "Peking" > does to most of us today. > > For those reasons, I think Cordoba with a "B" is the best option, and it > has my vote, though it appears that some sort of re-voting may be require= d > with multiple options so that it is a proper vote. > > --Ben > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Shazron wrote: > > > I appreciate that it is considered a misspelling outside of Spain - > > but I believe Cordova is just the name known for C=F3rdoba in the > > English speaking world. Like Germany is the English name for > > Deutschland or Allemagne in French. > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM, eduardo pelegri-llopart > > wrote: > > > Same here. As a native Spanish speaker, I shudder every time I see > > Spanish > > > names mistreated in the US (and/or Canada). > > > > > > I appreciate the intent to link the project to the history of Nitobi, > > but I > > > doubt most Spanish speaking will recognize it as such. Much more > likely > > it > > > will be seen as (yet another) misspelling of a Spanish name. > > > > > > - eduard/o > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Abu Obeida Bakhach < > > > Abu.Obeida@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > >> +1 for Cordoba, which is the more accurate pronunciation. Here are > the > > >> reasons: > > >> > > >> - the original city in Spain is called Cordoba all right. > > >> Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain > > >> City link: http://www.cordoba.es/ > > >> - the Cordova name is a variation that came after in naming the US > > cities > > >> in the new world. > > >> - as a Spanish and Arabic speaker, Cordoba just sounds right :) > > >> > > >> Thanks for considering > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Shazron [mailto:shazron@gmail.com] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:05 AM > > >> To: callback-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] rename callback to cordova > > >> > > >> +1 for Cordova. > > >> > > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > >> > The subject says it all. If we're going to change it sooner is > better. > > >> > We had rough consensus for Cordova in earlier threads so lets make > it > > >> > official. > > >> > > > >> > +1 > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential > information, privileged material (including material protected by the > solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-publi= c > information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intende= d > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, > please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from > your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this > transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawf= ul. > --bcaec52158ddcb52ee04b26127e0--