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From Arthur Chen <>
Subject Re: advancement of Bluesky project
Date Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:08:10 GMT
Dear Bernd,

Thanks for your kind suggestion and support from the start of the project.
For the problems you mentioned, I would like to add some more words to Liu's

First we must admit that Chinese people are not quite adaptable to the
philosophy of open source.
This may due to the history and national personality, but we are trying to
change it.
Being the first Chinese opensource project in ASF, we aims to promote the
open source movement in China.

Though there are few discussions in the mailing list, the project is
actively being developed. Most contributors are from Xi'an Jiaotong
but we also have some other guys involved who have graduated from the
university, like Shan Jiang, Weizhan Zhang, etc.
Just like the IRC used in abroad, we prefer instant communication for the
project development. This is done by the use of QQ (a popular Chinese
instant messenger) instead of IRC.

We know the project is not open enough, most developers are from the
university. But we are trying to attract more developers from outside,
we believe this can be done through the following ways:
1. The propagation among Chinese universities by the lab
2. The collaboration with other parties, like IBM mentioned by Liu.
3. The dissemination by graduated developers

I think given some time, we can attract more people, and make it a good
project in ASF.

For the mailing list discussion, my suggestion is to log the communication
in QQ, and post it to the mailing list.

Best regards,
Ping Chen

Kerckhoffs Master Student in Netherlands
Eindhoven University of Technology
Radboud University Nijmegen
University of Twente

On 17 June 2011 10:54, Bernd Fondermann <>wrote:

> Hi,
> Since project Bluesky started, it was continiously developed - yet not
> in the open, with others able to participate, seeing progress,
> establishing a steady group of contributors, getting to know the
> developer community etc.
> Instead, you developed the code in a closed environment, with eventual
> code drops here at Apache. The developer turn-over was substantial.
> This is all legitimate for software development. However, it is not
> what Apache and the Incubator is all about.
> To be fair, you didn't get the mentor support from Apache the project
> would have needed.
> I'd suggest to end Incubation for Bluesky here at Apache and propose
> you open source your software within the realm of your university or
> something like that. Many institutions do so successfully.
>  Bernd
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:41, hz nan <> wrote:
> > Hi, alL
> > Thanks for your attentions to our Bluesky project.
> > Since 2008,we have made a lot of progress for Bluesky. We've developed
> four different versions about our projects. May be you can not notice these
> advancements due to
> > so long releasing periods.
> > This is our neglection! So sorry for that.
> > Our lab made so much efforts to advance this project and we've really
> achieved some progresses.
> > Precently, we have already finished our system deployment of the 4th
> version and then we plan to upload and release this version to Acpache
> community.
> > The 4th version has a lot of new functions to increase fluency of the
> interactive hehaviors between teacher and students and support IPV6 access
> and IPTV.
> > The next task for our projects is to release the 4th version to Apache
> community.
> > The concrete steps can be listed as follows:
> > 1.release the codes of server part  in the recent 2 months.
> > 2.test the other parts ' stabilities.
> > 3.release the codes of DTU part in the september and October.
> > 4.improve the data transportations between teaccher part and student
> part.
> > 5. release the teacher part and student part before 2012 begins.
> > Please give us a chance to continue this significant communications.
> > Thanks so much for all members who pay attention to our 4th version
> Bluesky system.
> > Best regards!
> >
> > 2011-06-17
> >
> >
> >
> > hz nan
> >

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