From bluesky-dev-return-126-apmail-incubator-bluesky-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Jul 17 02:38:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bluesky-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 23583 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2008 02:38:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2008 02:38:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 48251 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2008 02:38:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bluesky-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48233 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2008 02:38:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact bluesky-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 48222 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jul 2008 02:38:47 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:38:47 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.182.146] (HELO e6.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.146) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:37:53 +0000 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e6.ny.us.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6H2bHoV000807 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:37:17 -0400 Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (d01av01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.215]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.0) with ESMTP id m6H2YkjE222826 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:34:46 -0400 Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av01.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m6H2YjGE016354 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:34:46 -0400 Received: from [9.12.241.149] ([9.12.241.149]) by d01av01.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m6H2YjLR016346 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:34:45 -0400 Message-ID: <487EAFC5.5000108@wstoddard.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:34:45 -0400 From: bill stoddard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Status? References: <487E809B.4000005@wstoddard.com> <200807171001195420611@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200807171001195420611@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org du.haipeng wrote: > We are a group of students working in the same room every day so it is easy for us to have face to face discussions whenever we met some problems. > > We havn't been used to puting all our things on the mail-list and this is badly against the "open and communicate" mind of ASF. So the next step we must try to make full use of it. > > On the other hand, poor English makes the communication hard, at least from my point of view... > Yes, I completely understand both points you make. I know from first hand experience that it's possible to coach a team that works in the same room to use a mailing list to communicate. I don't have a simple answer for the English barrier. Perhaps it is sufficient for just enough communication (in English) to happen on the mailing list to give people who are NOT in the same room an understanding of the decisions being made and direction the project is taking. This is a real challenge for the bluesky team, but you must overcome this challenge to succeed at the ASF. Bill