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From Henning Schmiedehausen <>
Subject BlueSky clouded? (was: Re: svn commit: r676177)
Date Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:09:10 GMT
Last time I looked, GTK, which is at the core of the code that I looked
at, is under LGPL, which is explicitly banned from Apache Projects:

Which licenses may NOT be included within Apache products?

      * GNU LGPL 2, 2.1, 3

So this means, that *everything* that is GTK dependent *must* go from
the Apache repos.

Up to now, Bluesky has not yet shown up on the incubator main page
(, has not reported and I don't see a code
grant either in foundation/officers/grants.txt.

The fact that actual GPL license files:

have been checked in, seems to imply that this is a code dump above everything
else. Could anyone closer involved with BlueSky please check this?

Thanks Bernd, for noticing this.


On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 20:52 +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> Hi,
> I am concerned about the recent commit from the BlueSky project,
> recorded as revision 676177.
> This bulk commit looks to me like GPLed code from a third party
> project has been taken, being modified to obfuscate the origins of
> this code and then being committed to svn without any prior IP
> clearance.
> In detail:
> * most directories contain a COPYING file with the GPL in it.
> * some files contain copyright notices from people and organisations
> not involved with the project, probably the original authors
> * files like AUTHORS, README probably have been emptied before the
> commit to remove any reference to their origins
> * the ASL headers have been added in follow-up commits.
> I'd like to know from the BlueSky committers what is their own code
> and what is taken from other projects (which ones)? Who are the
> respective copyright owners and have they been contacted?
> I'd propose to remove the code from svn and re-code the project based
> on committer's own contributions.
> In addition, BlueSky failed to properly report to the board for half a
> year now. Now, a report has been posted to bluesky-dev some days ago,
> but I could not spot it in todays report from Noel posted to general@.
> My on-list concerns about xplayer were not addressed in this report.
> xplayer seems to be (I did not take a closer look) a crucial component
> for this software, the committers said they would exclude it,
> resulting in the fact that now the software lacks audio/video
> capabilities. It looks like xplayer is derived from GPL'ed mplayer and
> the FFmpeg library has also been mentioned, both said to be having
> patent issues (that's what I read on wikipedia, I didn't check beyond
> that). I propose to work around this by using vorbis and related
> technologies.
> We (as the incubator) should mentor this project more intensively.
> Thanks,
>   Bernd
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