Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3B62D1F5 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5397 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2012 12:24:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bloodhound-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4861 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2012 12:23:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact bloodhound-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4534 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2012 12:23:17 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:23:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of joachim.dreimann@wandisco.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:23:04 +0000 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so511164vbb.6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:22:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=zisZ++PeoNNY/cPHjXSfbu+Xgpqmt9zzC+c4oFfx8OA=; b=lx7vMb0B8PWmor+tRk7vtUa1pjiM1DjUpdMZrNvPc0t1SLyJ2tTih1uwHa9RtN+hkp KH3AS6PB2uAD2xeQqM5hc6C3SBgyK7Wq2/D4+Mh9Ik4nKAE8vqntBTsw4pTG0yrtFCou mfDbqWw4VGoUPe2GYZY2eZoTkRSYsJrDwADMTzaMg1wiItesuAYT9fiuvLvqwLY+cM2D 5zbxDGy+YjaR5t7NHsSkgog7Yx7WokVecdXt+kdT8lcm5ZnfI8xBRPJXniSAY91h4rA6 utXQdOVc/msoEciU5f/HDBDq+ObGXWcEji9YOhX7UeULiNKTVAtBj7zO+oLAthW3PuFT fXPw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.240.171 with SMTP id wb11mr126942vdc.86.1348662163055; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.240.9 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:22:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <055.b50dbb0224108ed543de19d326c4d3ad@incubator.apache.org> <070.338933cccbb21f46678da17c1216d2e6@incubator.apache.org> <5062CC30.5050208@wandisco.com> <5062CD74.4030304@wandisco.com> <5062D136.1030306@wandisco.com> <5062D3C9.5000208@wandisco.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:22:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Apache Bloodhound] #210: Cleverer ticket CC behaviour From: Joachim Dreimann To: bloodhound-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca3dc26a37204ca99e1bc X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTbOgY4e1Oo4ueHknLvffWbhndZUVZnZVV4gUZ/3Mg9mshgxj7Q4Kk6sXYDTYy2KVkMRzY X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf307ca3dc26a37204ca99e1bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Brane's suggestion for the defaults. We could set these defaults now and deal with the notification system configured by individual users with a further ticket, as that likely requires much more in depth work. - Joe On 26 September 2012 11:14, Mat Booth wrote: > On 26 September 2012 11:07, Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: > > > This is not something you'll figure out without a) getting user > > feedback, or b) looking at the competition. AFAICR, both Jira, Redmina > > and Bugzilla all default to not sending notifications about stuff you'v= e > > just done in the UI. > > > > Indeed. Just to re-iterate my last comment on the ticket: > > Probably the notification system wants re-working to expose notification > settings to users instead of them being globally enforced. Something like > (but probably not as complex as) what Bugzilla does: > http://fedorapeople.org/~mbooth/BugzillaEmail.png > > > > > > > Trying to make the defaults perfect for everybody is an exercise in > > futility. And whatever you do, you'll only hear complaints from the > > vocal minority. :) > > > > -- Brane > > > > On 26.09.2012 11:56, Gary Martin wrote: > > > I wonder if in this case it might be better for initial configuration > > > to send by default in both cases, but mitigate this by providing an > > > appropriate direct link to help users adjust the behaviour. I'm tryin= g > > > to weigh up whether it would be a pity for a user to miss emails that > > > were actually wanted against annoyance at any perceived spamming. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > On 26/09/12 10:40, Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: > > >> This is something that should IMO be configurable. I suggest sane > > >> defaults are: > > >> > > >> * if ticket is changed via the Web UI, do not send notification; > > >> * if its changed via e-mail, do send notification (that's > essentially > > >> an e-mail receipt). > > >> > > >> However, both cases should be user-configurable, preferably > per-project > > >> and per ticket (workflow) type and eventually possibly even per > workflow > > >> transition. > > >> > > >> -- Brane > > >> > > >> > > >> On 26.09.2012 11:34, Gary Martin wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> I thought that this ticket might be worth discussing here if anyone > > >>> has any interest in it: > > https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/ticket/210 > > >>> > > >>> Essentially it arises from a complaint that a user might not want t= o > > >>> receive a notification email when they have made a change to a > ticket. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> Gary > > >>> > > >>> On 26/09/12 10:21, Apache Bloodhound wrote: > > >>>> #210: Cleverer ticket CC behaviour > > >>>> --------------------------+-------------------- > > >>>> Reporter: mbooth | Owner: nobody > > >>>> Type: enhancement | Status: new > > >>>> Priority: major | Milestone: > > >>>> Component: trac core | Version: 1.0 > > >>>> Resolution: | Keywords: > > >>>> --------------------------+-------------------- > > >>>> > > >>>> Comment (by mbooth): > > >>>> > > >>>> Probably the notification system wants re-working to expose > > >>>> notification > > >>>> settings to users instead of them being globally enforced. > > >>>> Something like > > >>>> (but maybe not as complex as) what Bugzilla does: > > >>>> http://fedorapeople.org/~mbooth/BugzillaEmail.png > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Certified & Supported Apache Subversion Downloads: > > http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/download > > > > > > > -- > Mat Booth > Software Engineer > WANdisco, Inc. > http://www.wandisco.com > --20cf307ca3dc26a37204ca99e1bc--