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From Alejandro Abdelnur <>
Subject Re: running init.d scripts by hand vs. service(8)
Date Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:15:34 GMT
The verbosity would be there only when running the scripts outside of
service, to avoid YOU tripping again :)

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur <> wrote:
>> I think is a desirable feature to be able to modify ENV then run start
>> the daemon directly. It may be handy on troubleshooting.
> As I said -- it is entirely possible we can all agree that this is a feature.
>> I'd propose a modification to Cos' proposal, print a NICE BIG WARN
>> when starting the daemons without service(8) stating 'current ENV
>> settings may affect the daemon (Roman remember that)'
> I don't think I have a guaranteed way of detecting one vs. the other.
> /usr/bin/service happens to be a shell script that at the end of the
> day simply scrubs the environment and execs the actual init.d script:
>     exec env -i LANG="$LANG" PATH="$PATH" TERM="$TERM"
> Perhaps we can try to detect that we're NOT exec'ed by service via
> absence of things like HOME, etc.
> The question then becomes whether this is too much trouble and whether
> it'll make our scripts too verbose.
> Thanks,
> Roman.


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