Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-bigtop-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bigtop-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9212F92D5 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 04:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40546 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2012 04:16:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-bigtop-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40442 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2012 04:16:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact bigtop-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: bigtop-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list bigtop-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40390 invoked by uid 99); 19 Mar 2012 04:16:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 04:16:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of tom@cloudera.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-ob0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 04:16:29 +0000 Received: by obqv19 with SMTP id v19so1153603obq.6 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BaQE0qHT6Bk9Yd3buoXuqHL1Mx9OBkheqncDROZVgW4=; b=FQ+kSorQb2T/bxnyoQHOYviAPKFMxT7Txdfj8uqvYJ5+HlzfqV2zZb61bbA3FdSAiu /qskvueHnLTWai22rXDlvOaWQ8rsDPgLZinSMVtqYj5Kl6jvzQUlxKDZvgJAV8Qs6Y1R snuAT0JrgcchsKCs+0ix77b1z6JWDeed+W68fvYDezTg6TX5mns3ap3eQ3gB0p9eOucB iOMxTG8fQwC/ZLQ+fOmQNxcTUUdTGFE6XWjV8uyAtJ8hu5bYnIRWBkw88E+NOkQQ+vY+ P6wWvcrPiBD2cu5u1xCCpARm6Jv7OPmEJs/pPpMapfC4fV8GMbPzgE+W762E55I5YAff KLcQ== Received: by 10.182.17.100 with SMTP id n4mr11653870obd.45.1332130568602; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.24.136 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:15:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tom White Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:15:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RedHat moving to OpenJDK To: bigtop-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQklJCKXhdLsZB7BjqU2vVOAYFUvl5AmJ2JHZ4wMX7UKPOzqchcrqeuNuYLqzPXZnLjYpJEp X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Jos Backus wrote: >> "Finally, Red Hat seems to have largely switched to OpenJDK. This is >> what JPackage is using for builds as well. > > Speaking of which -- what's your read on JPackage. It feels dead to me > (and that's why Bigtop started packaging outside of immediate Bigdata > scope) but I could be wrong. > >> There has been no need to >> build a nosrc.rpm for a while now, assuming you're willing to give up >> the Oracle JDK for the OpenJDK in your base OS." >> >> How do people here feel about this move? > > I think we have to bite the bullet and start supporting OpenJDK. At least > as an alternative JDK to Oracle's one. Various folks have been trying out Hadoop on OpenJDK with Whirr (see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIRR-518), and no major problems have been found yet. Granted, it hasn't had extensive testing, but it's a start. Doing some testing in Bigtop would be great. > That said I had reports about > silly incompatibilities (like what a null would produce when turned into > a string or something) that trip up Hadoop big time and nobody wants > to spend time debugging it. Can you point to any bug reports please? Tom > > Thanks, > Roman.