Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-allura-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-allura-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6962F107BF for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42797 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2013 12:22:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-allura-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42735 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2013 12:22:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact allura-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: allura-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list allura-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42720 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2013 12:22:26 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:22:26 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of roberto.galoppini@gmail.com designates 209.85.192.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.192.170] (HELO mail-pd0-f170.google.com) (209.85.192.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:22:22 +0000 Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x10so2197122pdj.15 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:22:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+kDozzdKUMZRqHtGSbkIE4CLlU2TQ6hSaw6EoTnMh3w=; b=AWbU4buYD7mG3jV4TUOHzTWTarn2qmRvp3rZeo86crZuYhRpossTL8qrakgorQ4GDi 6Iq9trimLtYEcKesZN1bEFV2IPVueC4Fk3YdfR3HwLWbxxQ4TziqRDzJkX4yICrGNOaI JMSKPYS0TwS7cqxkS7Qj+tXWYH4QTmzJd5Wy7OhUd+FlobvqNV4TUJXULFtP6K9TjUJ6 HPk2bnrXfIKi7FKMDmpij6y2h0JUOBXs9BIakAIVtB1TXNFaMLIOOXWHbXDEgjwQCrjE HOIeKun2Kxpn0WTH2u1NNv+YtMvZG6vi9vuCHZETyWW/Zvh/+AZunK9pdjo+6wyR74W3 Cr+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.159.132 with SMTP id xc4mr2914806pab.27.1376655721941; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.2.66 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <520DF1D0.30606@cord.dk> References: <520D17A6.2080603@rcbowen.com> <520DF1D0.30606@cord.dk> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:22:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Contacting other Apache projects From: Roberto Galoppini To: allura-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d7a1048d07804e40fa3de X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b6d7a1048d07804e40fa3de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2013/8/16 Daniel Gruno > On 08/15/2013 08:02 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > Oone of the compelling things about the Allura project is that it > > provides a unified software forge, while Apache projects tend to operate > > with a loosely coupled (or completely uncoupled) set of tools to develop > > their code. > > > > While one is usually reluctant to spam the entire committer@ list with > > ... well, with anything ... > It's been done before (I did it once, not too long ago) and with great > success. People tend to be positive towards receiving such mails, if > they are well crafted and explain exactly _why_ projects would benefit > from using this software. > > > it may be useful to send a (well written) > > message to committers@ that says: > > > > 1) Here's what Allura does. > If you're going to send to committers@, I'd put emphasis on what it does > _for projects such as Apache projects_, and not so much on _everything > it does_. So emphasis on collaboration (and exactly how this is > achieved, 'cause we know Allura is kind'a good at that ;) ) would be a > good thing. > Daniel would you be open to draft a message in this sense? Given your experience with Apache projects and your knowledge of Allura I believe you'd be able to capture the essence of what matters most to Apache folks. On a separate line of thoughts I'd be interested in learning your ideas about how heatbeats and allura could be integrated. Roberto > > As you said in the beginning, it's a unified software forge, which means > people won't have to ask infra for 17378 different tools every time they > set up a new project or migrate from podling to TLP, so maybe but some > of that in as a compelling argument. > > > > 2) Here's the kind of things we hope Allura does in the coming N months. > > > > 3) What kinds of tools would you, as a committer on the Apache Foo > > project, like to see in a forge style tool, or are you completely > > content with the status quo in Apache development tools? > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > With regards, > Daniel. > --047d7b6d7a1048d07804e40fa3de--