From adffaces-user-return-1186-apmail-incubator-adffaces-user-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Oct 12 19:34:21 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-adffaces-user-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 31133 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2006 19:34:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Oct 2006 19:34:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 87657 invoked by uid 500); 12 Oct 2006 19:34:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-adffaces-user-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87645 invoked by uid 500); 12 Oct 2006 19:34:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact adffaces-user-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87636 invoked by uid 99); 12 Oct 2006 19:34:20 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:34:20 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of unobriani@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.174 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.174] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.174) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:34:19 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so461376uge for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:33:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Js9qJLTNahm6fIyTeme77Wonc0Ed4ffAxUKI/F0gW7JBp4JoL6aexifz9yvOW0FlTveQnuJpq9CY4x57/pDcvuxIpYrHv8nGqrLBALyg55u93r3YaLJueG61pG0jNzORXtFQueS6FM3ZuysG54it7ZFMoQQ6krtOOs8LRR8tfmk= Received: by 10.67.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr3201558ugl; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.225.14 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:33:57 -0500 From: "Brian Smith" To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? In-Reply-To: <0EB5586BC84C9D438A52A7CB46EFB43001D6559F@NAVEXC.corp.int.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_79282_21967940.1160681637504" References: <0EB5586BC84C9D438A52A7CB46EFB43001D6559F@NAVEXC.corp.int.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_79282_21967940.1160681637504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I personally thought that ADF Faces was pretty well documented. It just got confusing sometimes based on the versioning. Some documentation dealt with the EA releases specifically. I too am using Trinidad now specifically for the built in Facelets support. With ADF Faces you had to boot strap another jar that was provided by Adam Winer to the facelets project. It just added to complexity of getting it to work. I am just getting anxious for Trinidad to graduate from Incubation. The link I provided is the "official" download page for ADF Faces on Oracle's site. I just joined the mailing list yesterday so I could not have answered it sooner. Sorry. Good luck with your projects. -Brian On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan wrote: > > Well I did not get it from there. I got it from ADF Faces official > project page at Oracle's web site. I wish you told me this few months > ago. I was googling all over the place for any link with adf-share.lib > and couldn't find it. And that was exactly why it was braking up. That > library file was missing, I was searching for it to try with it, and > couldn't find it until now. > > Now I am happily engaged with Trinidad and have no intention of going > back. I still think ADF Faces was badly documented if I couldn't resolve > this issue. > > I personally think Trinidad for the above reasons (damn adf-share.jar > and such things) is a better choice. Never had any problem so far. > > Dzenan Causevic > Software Web Developer > NaviSite, Inc. > Syracuse, NY > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:14 PM > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > If you download the ADF Faces standalone from here > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/jdev/htdocs/adfjsf.ht > ml > The ADFShare jar is in with the demo application that comes with it ( > adf-faces-demo.war) > WEB-INF/lib/adf-share-3549S.jar > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan wrote: > > > > It was probably then ADFShare.jar because I never could find that > file. > > I was suspecting it might be the reason but I did not get that library > > with my regular distribution. I only got API and IMPL ones. Where did > > you get ADFShare.jar anyway? > > > > Bug was manifested in a following way: I could compile and build the > > project, however in order to run it I had to remove IMPL jar. Once I > > removed it, I could run the project but <%@taglib%> directive did not > > work so it was like a magic circle. > > > > Dzenan Causevic > > Software Web Developer > > NaviSite, Inc. > > Syracuse, NY > > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:58 PM > > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > Nope, I was using ADF Faces 10.1.3.0.4 with Netbeans 5.5 Beta 2 > > > > What specifically was the problem/bug? > > > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan wrote: > > > > > > You must have used something else then version 10. It must have been > > > version 9 or below. > > > > > > Dzenan Causevic > > > Software Web Developer > > > NaviSite, Inc. > > > Syracuse, NY > > > (315) 453-2912 x5346 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:27 PM > > > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > > > I am a Netbeans user as well. I really did not have any problems > > using > > > ADF > > > Faces with Netbeans 5.5 Beta2 or RC1. The big sticking point was > > > including > > > the ADFShare jar in with it. The ADF Docs say you don't need it, > but > > i > > > could not build without it. > > > > > > On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From my experience I think that's exactly the case. That was my > > > > conclusion. I first tried ADF Faces and I had problems to install > it > > > to work > > > > with NetBeans. Actually I discovered a serious bug that prevents > ADF > > > Faces > > > > v10 from installing with NetBeans v5.5 correctly. It took me a > long > > > time > > > > until I figured it out, 'cos I did not get any kind of technical > > > support > > > > from their discussion list. Nobody knew anything why I was having > > > difficulty > > > > installing it with NetBeans. That was very frustrating, so I dont > > > blame if > > > > even Oracle people itself are switching to Trinidad. > > > > > > > > Basically my above mentioned problems resulted in me trying > Trinidad > > > as an > > > > alternative and once I got my hands on it I was quite happy to > have > > > found > > > > it. I personally dont see any reason to use ADF Faces over > Trinidad. > > > > Trinidad is much, much better supported + it has a brigther future > > as > > > a > > > > project I believe. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 1:08 PM > > > > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org > > > > Subject: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces? > > > > > > > > Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard > > that > > > > Oracle > > > > is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to > > desupport > > > ADF > > > > Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is > > there > > > > plans > > > > to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming > > release > > > of > > > > JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed. > > > > -Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_79282_21967940.1160681637504--