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From "Grant Smith" <work.gr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Announcement] new name for Oracle's ADF Faces donation
Date Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:53:49 GMT
What have other projects done ? I doubt any other ASF projects have a formal
trademark. I *THINK* as long as we have done a seach, we should be able to
proceed.

On 6/12/06, Frank Felix Debatin <ffd@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
> I checked on the German register. It only shows one entry in
> class 34 (which is Tobacco).   See attachments.
>
> So there is no conflicting EU-wide entry. Obviously, this
> doesn't guarantee you that there might be additional local
> entries.
>
> > I think our odds are good too, but I believe there is a
> more
> > formal, legally complete method.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not true (I've gone through that
> process recently, so I can tell). There is no safe way, 100%
> way. Legal regulations differ from country to country.
>
> BUT: the safest way is to register your own trademark, and
> wait whether somebody objects.  If nobody objects for some
> time (1/2 year?) then you are pretty safe. Unfortunately,
> there is non-neglictable cost with filing a global
> trademark. If you don't use your trademark, you loose it
> after some time (5 years?), even if its registered.
>
> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is just from what I can
> tell.
>
> Frank Felix
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Winer [mailto:awiner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:30 PM
> > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [Announcement] new name for Oracle's ADF
> Faces donation
> >
> > I think our odds are good too, but I believe there is a
> more
> > formal, legally complete method.  We've got to be 100%
> sure,
> > not 99.9% sure.  For example, I found that US Trademarks
> > could be searched with:
> >
> >
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=8q2si5.
> 1.1
> >
> > There's 47 trademarks against Trinidad, which look like
> > mostly Rum and Cigar trademarks, but also plants, bathroom
>
> > accessories, etc.  None of those 47 referred to software,
> or
> > anything at all high-tech.  But I'd imagine there also
> needs
> > to be an EU search, etc., and this is a legal question,
> which
> > I'm definitely not qualified to answer!
> >
> > -- Adam
> >
> >
> > On 6/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Last week I used google to "filter" these names.
> > > Candidates like topaz - as I expected - are already take
> by
> > companies
> > > or other software products. For Trinidad I found nothing
> like that.
> > > Other of the suggested name - like GOLD - I found abit
> more... that
> > > might be related to software.
> > >
> > > I just found a software company, located in Port of
> Spain :-)
> > >
> > > I think with this name we have a pretty fine one.
> > >
> > > Good night,
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > > On 6/11/06, Adam Winer <awiner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Matthias,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for organizing this!  I think we now need to do
>
> > some sort of
> > > > a more formal trademark check to make sure the name is
> OK.
> > > > I don't know how to do that...  hopefully someone can
> help.
> > > > Once that finishes, we'll repackage (adf->trinidad),
> make it
> > > > official, and cross one item off our incubator list!
> > > >
> > > > -- Adam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi ADF community,
> > > > >
> > > > > during the last three days we were looking for a new
>
> > name. Lot's
> > > > > of users suggested a new name and we finally voted
> on
> > that names.
> > > > > The community (not only the committers) voted mostly
>
> > for the name
> > > > > "Trinidad".
> > > > >
> > > > > So in fact the "formal" ADF Faces component libary
> is
> > know known as "Trinidad".
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matthias
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > > Aechterhoek 18
> > > > > 48282 Emsdetten
> > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > Aechterhoek 18
> > > 48282 Emsdetten
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
>
>


-- 
Grant Smith

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