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From "Martin Marinschek" <martin.marinsc...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ADF and myFaces problem
Date Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:29:56 GMT
I doubt that adffaces would come with com.sun.* classes.

Check your library dirs, temp dirs, etc. for remnaints of sun's jars.

regards,

Martin

On 4/4/06, Arash Bijanzadeh <arashbi@gmail.com> wrote:
> No I am using myfaces purely. The com.sun packages belong to facelets
>
>
> On 4/4/06, Martin Marinschek <martin.marinschek@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Are you using the RI as a base?
> >
> > I see com.sun.* classes in your stack-trace. If planned so, ok. If
> > not, there might be incompatibilities.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 4/4/06, Arash Bijanzadeh <arashbi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The version of myFaces is head from svn.
> > > I tryed to use  ADF in my application ( Facelets, myFaces,ADF)
> > > to do this I added :
> > > application>
> > >        <default-render-kit-id>
> > >              oracle.adf.core
> > >        </default-render-kit-id>
> > >     </application>
> > >
> > > and this to web.xml
> > >
> > > <filter>
> > >        <filter-name>adfFaces</filter-name>
> > >
> <filter-class>oracle.adf.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilter
> > > </filter-class>
> > >      </filter>
> > >
> > >      <filter-mapping>
> > >        <filter-name>adfFaces</filter-name>
> > >        <servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
> > >  </filter-mapping>
> > >
> > > to my faces-config.xml ( is there any other step I need?)
> > > The application gives me:
> > >
> > > java.lang.NullPointerException
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.FacesRenderingContext.setRenderingProperty
> (FacesRenderingContext.java:157)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.ui.RenderedNodeRenderingContext.setProperty(RenderedNodeRenderingContext.java:162)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.ui.RootRenderingContext.init
> (RootRenderingContext.java:81)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.FacesRenderingContext.<init>(FacesRenderingContext.java:106)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.FacesRenderingContext.createRenderingContext
> (FacesRenderingContext.java:79)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.UINodeRendererBase.getRenderingContext(UINodeRendererBase.java:89)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.FacesRenderingContext.getRenderingContext
> (FacesRenderingContext.java:66)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.uinode.FacesRenderingContext.getRenderingContext(FacesRenderingContext.java:52)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.renderkit.htmlBasic.UINodeRenderer.getRenderingContext
> (UINodeRenderer.java:79)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.renderkit.htmlBasic.UINodeRenderer.encodeEnd(UINodeRenderer.java:56)
> > >         at
> javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.encodeEnd(UIComponentBase.java
> :536)
> > >         at
> com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler.encodeRecursive(FaceletViewHandler.java:554)
> > >         at
> com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler.encodeRecursive(FaceletViewHandler.java:551)
> > >         at
> com.sun.facelets.FaceletViewHandler.renderView(FaceletViewHandler.java:457)
> > >         at
> org.apache.myfaces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.render(LifecycleImpl.java:367)
> > >         at javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet.service
> (FacesServlet.java:138)
> > >         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:252)
> > >         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java
> :173)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl._invokeDoFilter(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java:279)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl._doFilterImpl(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java
> :248)
> > >         at
> oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilterImpl.doFilter(AdfFacesFilterImpl.java:172)
> > >
> > >
> > >         at
> oracle.adf.view.faces.webapp.AdfFacesFilter.doFilter(AdfFacesFilter.java
> :80)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/4/06, Thomas Spiegl <thomas.spiegl@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's just symptom therapy, but remove tomahawk-sandbox.jar from your
> > > > WEB-INF/lib and try to run examples again.
> > > >
> > > > What version of MyFaces do you use?
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/4/06, Arash Bijanzadeh < arashbi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Arash Bijanzadeh <arashbi@gmail.com >
> > > > > Date: Apr 4, 2006 11:17 AM
> > > > > Subject: ADF and myFaces problem
> > > > > To: adffaces-users@incubator.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I dl the apache-drop.zip and tryed to deploy the example war but
get
> > > > this
> > > > > error message:
> > > > > 16:46:39,258 ERROR [STDERR] java.lang.ClassCastException :
> > > > >
> org.apache.myfaces.custom.ajax.api.AjaxDecodePhaseListener
> > > > > 16:46:39,264 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.configure(ConfigureListener.java
> > > > :711)
> > > > > 16:46:39,265 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.configure(ConfigureListener.java
> > > > :398)
> > > > > 16:46:39,265 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.contextInitialized(
> > > > > ConfigureListener.java:328)
> > > > > 16:46:39,268 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart (
> > > > StandardContext.java
> > > > > :3692)
> > > > > 16:46:39,268 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java
> > > > :4127)
> > > > > 16:46:39,269 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(
> > > > ContainerBase.java
> > > > > :759)
> > > > > 16:46:39,272 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:739)
> > > > > 16:46:39,272 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java
> :524)
> > > > > 16:46:39,273 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0
> (Native Method)
> > > > > 16:46:39,273 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke (
> > > > NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java
> > > > > :39)
> > > > > 16:46:39,278 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java :25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,278 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,279 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.apache.commons.modeler.BaseModelMBean.invoke
> (BaseModelMBean.java
> > > > :503)
> > > > > 16:46:39,282 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.RawDynamicInvoker.invoke(RawDynamicInvoker.java:164)
> > > > > 16:46:39,283 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,283 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.init
> (StandardContext.java
> > > > :5031)
> > > > > 16:46:39,283 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
> Method)
> > > > > 16:46:39,304 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> > > > > 16:46:39,305 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,305 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,308 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.apache.commons.modeler.BaseModelMBean.invoke(BaseModelMBean.java
> > > > :503)
> > > > > 16:46:39,309 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.RawDynamicInvoker.invoke(RawDynamicInvoker.java
> :164)
> > > > > 16:46:39,314 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,315 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.web.tomcat.tc5.TomcatDeployer.performDeployInternal
> (
> > > > > TomcatDeployer.java:345)
> > > > > 16:46:39,315 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.web.tomcat.tc5.TomcatDeployer.performDeploy(
> > > > TomcatDeployer.java
> > > > > :106)
> > > > > 16:46:39,316 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.web.AbstractWebDeployer.start(
> > > > > AbstractWebDeployer.java:392)
> > > > > 16:46:39,478 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.web.WebModule.startModule (
> > > > > WebModule.java:83)
> > > > > 16:46:39,478 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.web.WebModule.startService(
> > > > > WebModule.java:61)
> > > > > 16:46:39,478 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.system.ServiceMBeanSupport.jbossInternalStart (
> > > > > ServiceMBeanSupport.java:289)
> > > > > 16:46:39,479 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.system.ServiceMBeanSupport.jbossInternalLifecycle
> (
> > > > > ServiceMBeanSupport.java:245)
> > > > > 16:46:39,483 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0
> (Native Method)
> > > > > 16:46:39,483 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java
> > > > > :39)
> > > > > 16:46:39,484 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke (
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java :25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,484 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,487 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ReflectedDispatcher.invoke(
> > > > ReflectedDispatcher.java
> > > > > :157)
> > > > > 16:46:39,488 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.dispatch (
> > > > > Invocation.java:96)
> > > > > 16:46:39,488 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java:88)
> > > > > 16:46:39,489 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.AbstractMBeanInvoker.invoke (
> > > > AbstractMBeanInvoker.java
> > > > > :262)
> > > > > 16:46:39,497 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke
> (MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,497 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.system.ServiceController$ServiceProxy.invoke (
> > > > > ServiceController.java:974)
> > > > > 16:46:39,498 ERROR [STDERR]     at $Proxy0.start(Unknown Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,498 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.system.ServiceController.start(
> > > > > ServiceController.java:417)
> > > > > 16:46:39,501 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor8.invoke(Unknown
> Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,501 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java :25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,502 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,505 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ReflectedDispatcher.invoke
> (
> > > > ReflectedDispatcher.java
> > > > > :157)
> > > > > 16:46:39,506 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.dispatch (
> > > > > Invocation.java:96)
> > > > > 16:46:39,507 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java:88)
> > > > > 16:46:39,511 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.AbstractMBeanInvoker.invoke(
> > > > AbstractMBeanInvoker.java:262)
> > > > > 16:46:39,511 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,512 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.util.MBeanProxyExt.invoke(
> > > > > MBeanProxyExt.java:190)
> > > > > 16:46:39,513 ERROR [STDERR]     at $Proxy34.start(Unknown Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,516 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.web.AbstractWebContainer.start(
> > > > > AbstractWebContainer.java:466)
> > > > > 16:46:39,516 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
> Method)
> > > > > 16:46:39,517 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java
> > > > > :39)
> > > > > 16:46:39,517 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,520 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,521 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ReflectedDispatcher.invoke(
> > > > ReflectedDispatcher.java
> > > > > :157)
> > > > > 16:46:39,521 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.dispatch (
> > > > > Invocation.java:96)
> > > > > 16:46:39,522 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.AbstractInterceptor.invoke(
> > > > AbstractInterceptor.java
> > > > > :138)
> > > > > 16:46:39,529 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java :90)
> > > > > 16:46:39,529 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ModelMBeanOperationInterceptor.invoke(
> > > > > ModelMBeanOperationInterceptor.java:140)
> > > > > 16:46:39,530 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.interceptor.DynamicInterceptor.invoke
> (
> > > > DynamicInterceptor.java
> > > > > :97)
> > > > > 16:46:39,530 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.system.InterceptorServiceMBeanSupport.invokeNext(
> > > > > InterceptorServiceMBeanSupport.java :237)
> > > > > 16:46:39,534 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.ws.server.WebServiceDeployer.start
> (WebServiceDeployer.java
> > > > :111)
> > > > > 16:46:39,534 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.SubDeployerInterceptorSupport$XMBeanInterceptor.start
> > > > (
> > > > > SubDeployerInterceptorSupport.java:181)
> > > > > 16:46:39,535 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.deployment.SubDeployerInterceptor.invoke(
> > > > > SubDeployerInterceptor.java:96)
> > > > > 16:46:39,535 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java:90)
> > > > > 16:46:39,539 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.AbstractMBeanInvoker.invoke (
> > > > AbstractMBeanInvoker.java
> > > > > :262)
> > > > > 16:46:39,539 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,540 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.util.MBeanProxyExt.invoke (
> > > > > MBeanProxyExt.java :190)
> > > > > 16:46:39,540 ERROR [STDERR]     at $Proxy35.start(Unknown Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,543 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.start (
> > > > > MainDeployer.java:1007)
> > > > > 16:46:39,544 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.deploy(
> > > > > MainDeployer.java:808)
> > > > > 16:46:39,544 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.deploy(
> > > > > MainDeployer.java:771)
> > > > > 16:46:39,564 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor48.invoke(Unknown
> Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,568 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> > > > > 16:46:39,568 ERROR [STDERR]     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(
> > > > > Method.java:585)
> > > > > 16:46:39,569 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ReflectedDispatcher.invoke(
> > > > ReflectedDispatcher.java
> > > > > :157)
> > > > > 16:46:39,572 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.dispatch(
> > > > > Invocation.java:96)
> > > > > 16:46:39,573 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.interceptor.AbstractInterceptor.invoke
> (
> > > > > AbstractInterceptor.java:138)
> > > > > 16:46:39,573 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java:90)
> > > > > 16:46:39,573 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.mx.interceptor.ModelMBeanOperationInterceptor.invoke
> (
> > > > > ModelMBeanOperationInterceptor.java :140)
> > > > > 16:46:39,576 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> org.jboss.mx.server.Invocation.invoke
> > > > (
> > > > > Invocation.java:90)
> > > > > 16:46:39,577 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.AbstractMBeanInvoker.invoke (
> > > > AbstractMBeanInvoker.java
> > > > > :262)
> > > > > 16:46:39,577 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > > org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke
> (MBeanServerImpl.java:668)
> > > > > 16:46:39,578 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > org.jboss.mx.util.MBeanProxyExt.invoke(
> > > > > MBeanProxyExt.java :190)
> > > > > 16:46:39,582 ERROR [STDERR]     at $Proxy9.deploy(Unknown Source)
> > > > > 16:46:39,583 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.scanner.URLDeploymentScanner.deploy(
> > > > > URLDeploymentScanner.java:334)
> > > > > 16:46:39,583 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.scanner.URLDeploymentScanner.scan(
> > > > > URLDeploymentScanner.java:504)
> > > > > 16:46:39,583 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.doScan
> > > > (
> > > > > AbstractDeploymentScanner.java :207)
> > > > > 16:46:39,589 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.loop
> (
> > > > > AbstractDeploymentScanner.java:218)
> > > > > 16:46:39,589 ERROR [STDERR]     at
> > > > >
> org.jboss.deployment.scanner.AbstractDeploymentScanner$ScannerThread.run(
> > > > > AbstractDeploymentScanner.java :197)
> > > > > 16:46:39,594 ERROR
> [[/adf-faces-demo-ea20-SNAPSHOT]] Exception sending
> > > > > context initialized event to listener instance of class
> > > > > com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener
> > > > > javax.faces.FacesException : java.lang.ClassCastException:
> > > > >
> org.apache.myfaces.custom.ajax.api.AjaxDecodePhaseListener
> > > > >         at
> com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener.contextInitialized (
> > > > > ConfigureListener.java:334)
> > > > >         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart (
> > > > > StandardContext.java:3692)
> > > > >         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start (
> > > > > StandardContext.java:4127)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Could someone help me please?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > from debian manifesto:
> > > > > Debian Linux is a brand-new kind of Linux distribution.
> > > > > Rather than being developed by one isolated individua
> > > > > l or group, as other distributions of Linux have been developed in
> the
> > > > > past, Debian is being developed openly in the spirit of Linux and
> GNU.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > from debian manifesto:
> > > > > Debian Linux is a brand-new kind of Linux distribution.
> > > > > Rather than being developed by one isolated individua
> > > > > l or group, as other distributions of Linux have been developed in
> the
> > > > > past, Debian is being developed openly in the spirit of Linux and
> GNU.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.irian.at
> > > >
> > > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > > Courses in English and German
> > > >
> > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > from debian manifesto:
> > > Debian Linux is a brand-new kind of Linux distribution.
> > > Rather than being developed by one isolated individua
> > > l or group, as other distributions of Linux have been developed in the
> > > past, Debian is being developed openly in the spirit of Linux and GNU.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
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