Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CC3200B5C for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:21:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 6EDC3160A93; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id BE589160A90 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:21:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 91721 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jul 2016 23:21:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@impala.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@impala.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@impala.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 91708 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jul 2016 23:21:25 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 2E81A1A7BEA for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cloudera-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vfklAJEVw-xD for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com (mail-oi0-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C5B115F4E4 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l72so39872769oig.2 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudera-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=scYue7JYfERuJZeNZM+1/VFKf0UYGW0dPM/TDwzDJ6c=; b=GGOAIVx32kFx1a3gTWs4glaIK+BOvkdAkiHJCsDO2jpT8krSOySVtJhtjq1Zu1JTv1 RFMcJFMw1oBpKvNlm5FIuBCpWRXL5Vhr8/rGBZgQSaAgKlSQNgqSX6uMCUmy18wuJPop foVzMTnjGgB6LNmEdCVpV8bP1cVBp1cn+wW8EQXBQk+KaqEbd33Q1n+mfYt40AVS6htR yvRoetaKKc0ngZ0pW023INN0k30Zq8aeYU3gcgbLCydD5VwfQc1pqI8ejerYUGxdDM4H RMGY2/seE4fIuBhifk0InfToIyF2KpANn9N3NdtAKUmhWzgsEYPxwzCCDXhAYjcs3kcd GCDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=scYue7JYfERuJZeNZM+1/VFKf0UYGW0dPM/TDwzDJ6c=; b=T3xuiVcuWCg8oyTBJsbsrYk9BPh+ovtZ2BK9oalasCrWUhPIM/tvW6wKpPzuiXB5jH ZqOJbxAdYfUvpKP3TLezkyDKr0Vjog6q2cr5gu276yAjf1mNo3USnj+XdjRz2gQkgsiq gdN+RtM6hK3mMwHOe53aUkjyrldq/5r53OY19nRYem6pmIF28yVPwj4STbdK4wzzatV3 cPOUFvAa1dYgZslRLXPpgplmifZ4OXxt5kmfVA6JDBmD5BKzPnV7xAHs/v5NDq+5+uVN jacGaZDz79uBrHuGN9P8cgT6JvE+FEYMnShx/Y76YjLQyCROb8CIwHLZnCaolPpDvKWZ NxJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouus+j4EbI0uas7L4Z+IHbcP121NPkUMVb+2M52rNK5Mt03im2YM2/ICeSu87lmImw7zVzvNk/fs29zQ+n76 X-Received: by 10.157.60.228 with SMTP id t33mr17454193otf.163.1469661679311; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:21:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.226.83 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:20:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Brown Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:20:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Choosing a Service Provider for Public Build / Test Infrastructure To: dev@impala.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 archived-at: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:21:32 -0000 > My understanding is that this section describes the status quo, not > your optimal idea of the future? Correct. > If so, who do you think should administer a the jobs? If jobs' configurations and management instructions are kept in SCM as I propose, then changes will be subject to the same sort of review standards as code. According to the bylaws, those changes require "At least one +2 from a committer and no -1 from any committer." [0] For committers to make informed [1] votes on such proposed changes, it follows committers who administer jobs will be in the best position to cast such votes. Apache Impala (incubating) does not have many committers, so it seems best to propose that all committers should administer the jobs until such time as the committers or PMC deem otherwise. [0] http://impala.apache.org/bylaws.html [1] "I am confident in the change and this can be committed without further review after addressing the remaining points I have made." Ibid. On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Jim Apple wrote: > Thanks for the detailed doc. > >> Soft / Administrative >> >> - Anyone employed at Cloudera working on Apache Impala (incubating) can >> view or alter the jobs (promotes the idea that everyone can enhance the >> jobs and theoretically helps discourage de facto sysadmins or "experts") > > My understanding is that this section describes the status quo, not > your optimal idea of the future? > > If so, who do you think should administer a the jobs? PMC? Committers? > Some sort of volunteer committee? > > (Personally, my feeling is that any of those would be just fine) > > Volunteer-wise, I have read the document ("quick audit" task) and am > comfortable with it.