From dev-return-48515-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@ignite.apache.org Tue Dec 3 10:39:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 5903A180629 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 11:39:46 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 57790 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2019 10:39:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ignite.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@ignite.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ignite.apache.org Received: (qmail 57774 invoked by uid 99); 3 Dec 2019 10:39:45 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:39:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 6C210C03C8 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:39:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.101 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URI_HEX=0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FRnG7_A0Aldc for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::935; helo=mail-ua1-x935.google.com; envelope-from=alexey.scherbakoff@gmail.com; receiver= Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 899A57DC1D for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 10:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id i31so1118114uae.13 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 02:39:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H9kBdodK30nHaAmmAv/svxi3vojyqh7LMMVX4OwyLDs=; b=Xoy4PSQ2LEo/qmCNQnPhp/4xXZwx2ok57QlGC6LjpvuhgCN1JdHZgCDeZr0hu36rEJ 5lxy2A+Fc3p2Gg/ZNvWNenE91eYik7UFdasmspqsJJqUmaVzSS1umplJx1kn38gR/aFV rMy6nDO03sdznNmhe3UXFGH0JHXX9KLELOJxyEp0Eb8mNEyRIQi5zAUM7vLpzMJFgxwv NyHmzASn2zgAvXPzYKopGLr+3avU4IKKsMYE7hNzCoWlms5ZPY/Dv00OT9LNoeM+fN5I FecQT0VPY/sXqHJ1/ZmA/1WyTAn6Y4AOiBiVwPfmXa4tlJTwA77xfZJAmtx07dFsGLYx jtmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H9kBdodK30nHaAmmAv/svxi3vojyqh7LMMVX4OwyLDs=; b=lm3IL1NKER7Maj+z11JRh9Nh2epE2zt21Xma0QjpEzN+fjCFJ8HZnk5rhsiyPORVaF 09/1CmwoEWgtAkeLF4bUqqHd20RJ7oXqXiwF70uoPSd6UmdyprYyROd2CO4McFCGVndi WG6nKqGzf8KSt2Vy99bGAxKNuS7/yAkvtXrhuyJEtHX6BFMRowgV+OOT4/CxtigRmd62 PQrnfQNzJjsvSfmiOKZKwbikk7pTGIPeYejEHa3JVB9IxO3S7MqJ0mv3rrcddLSdkAUs o7MaTAKC7EGzAdZjGYJl2wl6xW90ved+th+1DAP1uq9d5y48PUGnJH0Rg4BO2DwL+925 irCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVhhmjhQD6hUJdPIJw96xz9rHYdJRIE5M5H5BSiJuFiF6dcB1RF FgZQYNcGglut5qKJgZVJSSnRoOhzRZYqWY1u5vGazA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxga1EB+8W54q6ryWoJ0qQDtwfOCjuX/NKAfAghllk68JC7YYn4TwgvKJEgqec0e2CY0s9XhPUMyTNC29Rh1Cg= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7118:: with SMTP id x24mr2790451uan.29.1575369575255; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 02:39:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8462411569340421@sas8-004ac07304b9.qloud-c.yandex.net> <397e997b-bd17-c987-b4a6-f1d09204d8d1@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Alexei Scherbakov Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:39:22 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apache Ignite 2.8 RELEASE [Time, Scope, Manager] To: dev@ignite.apache.org Cc: Ivan Rakov , Alexey Goncharuk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ec56930598ca4fcc" --000000000000ec56930598ca4fcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maxim, I'm not sure this is purely a "tombstone" problem, could be a tree concurrency issue. Looks like the investigation is required. For example, tombstone logic can be reverted but test logic is kept. It seems Ivan Rakov already suggested to revert a commit from master branch in another thread. =D0=BF=D0=BD, 2 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 17:17, Maxim Muzafa= rov : > Igniters, > > > I've found a scary error [1] with `CorruptedTreeException: B+Tree is > corrupted` on TC in the master branch. It seems that the issue is > related to a [2] tombstone implementation (probably not). > > Can anyone confirm that the problem is still actual? > If it is true, do we have time for resolving the problem? > Will it be better to revert this commit from the release branch? > > [1] > https://ci.ignite.apache.org/viewLog.html?buildId=3D4796925&tab=3DbuildRe= sultsDiv&buildTypeId=3DIgniteTests24Java8_Cache9#testNameId7609674190425495= 190 > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11704 > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 16:50, Maxim Muzafarov wrote: > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > I've had conversations with Nikolay and Alexey about working progress > > [1] on ML, Spark, Monitoring features which we are waiting for. It > > seems the progress dates is a bit slower than we expected earlier. I'd > > suggest the following dates: > > > > 2 December - the release branch cutting. > > 30 December - code freeze of the release branch (only blocker issues > allowed) > > 27 January 2020 - the voting date (2+ weeks of stabilization period) > > > > Any objections? > > > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 18:01, Maxim Muzafarov wrote: > > > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > > > > Not yet. I will announce the release branch cutting stage with a > > > separate post, probably, for a one week before the cut. No one will > > > not miss it for sure. > > > > > > Currently, all issues can safely be pinned to 2.8 release, but for > > > huge issues\features (e.g. `baseline topology`, `persistence`) which > > > are going to be included into the release, it's better to have a > > > separate thread discussion. Do you have such issues in mind? > > > > > > I'm trying to estimate new release dates due to not all features whic= h > > > we are waiting for [1] will be completed by the due dates discussed > > > before. > > > I'll back soon. > > > > > > [1] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 17:46, Alexey Goncharuk > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > A side note - we did not cut the 2.8 branch yet, did we? > > > > > > > > This information is not reflected on the release page and I just > realized > > > > that it is hard to choose a fix version for a ticket that is being > merged > > > > to master when release scope is being finalized. This moment is > covered > > > > neither in the release process nor in the development process > (unless I am > > > > missing something). > > > > > > > > =D1=81=D1=80, 6 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 13:55= , Maxim Muzafarov : > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > Ivan, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's true that currently, all resolved issues with 2.8 > fixVersion > > > > > will get into 2.8 release. > > > > > Moreover, I've marked all issues with empty fixVersion filed clos= ed > > > > > since 2.7 major release with 2.8 labels. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 15:03, Ivan Pavlukhin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please elaborate about a question from Akash. What > tickets > > > > > > do we consider for release? All with 2.8 fix version in Jira or > there > > > > > > is a different criteria? > > > > > > > > > > > > =D0=B2=D1=82, 5 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 1= 5:01, Ivan Pavlukhin >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True. It is definitely to early for Calcite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =D0=B2=D1=82, 5 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2= 14:46, Alexey Zinoviev < > zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no ideas, I think it's enough for this release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it's not the proper time for Calcite > integration and > > > > > so on, > > > > > > > > isn't it @Igor Seliverstov? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =D0=B2=D1=82, 5 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0= =B2 14:41, Maxim Muzafarov < > mmuzaf@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we want to discuss something? > > > > > > > > > What else features do we want to include? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I propose to exclude any other major features > (except > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > discussed - ML, Monitoring, Spark) and focus on bug fixin= g > and the > > > > > > > > > master branch stabilization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 17:57, Akash Shinde < > akashshinde@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I didn't see it in this list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Releaseissuesgroupedbystatus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to make sure its a part on 2.8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Akash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:20 PM Ivan Pavlukhin < > > > > > vololo100@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Akash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is not included? I see fix versio= n > 2.8 in > > > > > ticket > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-1088= 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =D1=81=D1=80, 30 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0= =B2 17:29, Akash Shinde < > > > > > akashshinde@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please include IGNITE-10884 > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 2.8 > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > issue is blocker for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Akash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:38 PM Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems a week ago I've replied with the release > info > > > > > only to > > > > > > > > > Artem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about that :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I've collected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's discuss! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page > [1] with > > > > > the list > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and > about the > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, > please, > > > > > feel free to > > > > > > > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be > completed > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > > > > creating the release branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned bu= t > > > > > discussion not > > > > > > > > > > > > > finalized yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: > find and > > > > > resolve > > > > > > > > > > > > > packages conflicts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to > async/await may > > > > > hang a > > > > > > > > > cluster > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone > knows any > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, > step in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552 > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and > server > > > > > nodes > > > > > > > > > restart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite > > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > > sorted > > > > > > > > > > > > > by priority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:53, Maxim Muzafarov < > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release pag= e > [1] > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > list of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release > and about > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, > please, > > > > > feel free > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must b= e > > > > > completed before > > > > > > > > > > > > > > creating the release branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Spark 2.4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * TO DISCUSS * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned > but > > > > > discussion not > > > > > > > > > > > > > finalized yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: > find and > > > > > resolve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > packages conflicts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to > async/await may > > > > > hang a > > > > > > > > > > > cluster > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someon= e > knows > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, > please, step > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client > and server > > > > > nodes > > > > > > > > > > > restart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Igni= te > > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > > > > sorted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by priority. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#Apac= heIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 18:18, Artem Budnikov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad to see that you care about > documentation. Way > > > > > to go! > > > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couple of points that can help: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I think it's safe to assume that Prachi > will not > > > > > work on the > > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation any longer. You can take up the > issues > > > > > assigned > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prioritize them whichever way is convenient f= or > > > > > yourself. In > > > > > > > > > fact, > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can take up other's issues as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I'll try to do my best to finish as much > > > > > documentation > > > > > > > > > issues as > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be able to by the release date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, it looks like that in general we are good= . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Artem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13.10.2019 15:55, Maxim Muzafarov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ilya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that issues related to > `documentation` can > > > > > be safely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > postponed, however, for me the whole batch > of such > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > looks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unmanageable and unclear. At least we shoul= d > > > > > prioritize all > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complete the maximum that we can by the > deadline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:47, Ilya > Kasnacheev < > > > > > > > > > > > > > ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think that Documentation tickets may be > safely > > > > > postponed > > > > > > > > > until > > > > > > > > > > > > > final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> stages of release, since it's not included > in > > > > > artifacts, > > > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> on readme.io, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Ilya Kasnacheev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> =D1=87=D1=82, 10 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2019 = =D0=B3. =D0=B2 14:41, Pavel > Kovalenko < > > > > > > > > > > > jokserfn@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Issues link is broken, because it has a > filter > > > > > that can't > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Here is correct link: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=3Dproject%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND= %20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch= %20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20D= ocumentation%20order%20by%20status > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> =D1=87=D1=82, 10 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2019= =D0=B3. =D0=B2 13:38, Maxim > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Who can advise what we can\should do wit= h > the > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> `documentation` component to release > Ignite 2.8 > > > > > version? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> How can I sort them and prioritize? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> What are best-practices here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Currently, we have 81 issues pinned to 2= .8 > > > > > release [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 6 - `In Progress` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 2 - `Patch Available` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 73 - `Open` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Some of the issues are assigned to the > `Prachi > > > > > Garg` > > > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> active since February 15-th 2019. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=3D12347303&jql=3Dproject%20= %3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progres= s%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20c= omponent%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 01:52, Denis Magda= < > > > > > > > > > dmagda@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> This sounds reasonable to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:55 AM Maxim > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Since we are focusing on new SQL engin= e > > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> perform bulk moving of all MVCC relate= d > > > > > unassigned > > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> next release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Can you confirm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=3Dproject%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND= %20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%= 20priority%20in%20(Major)%20and%20summary%20~%20MVCC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 01:27, Denis > Magda < > > > > > > > > > dmagda@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Alexey Z., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Could you please answer some of the > questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop > Accelerator > > > > > > > > > Discontinuation > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next > release > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > dependency on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey > Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can we decouple Tensorflow from the > IGFS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, > Spark 2.4, > > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion t= o > be sure > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be > present in > > > > > 2.8 > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Are there any other ML contributors > who will be > > > > > > > > > helping you > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> release? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM Maxim > Muzafarov > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Here is the list of activities we've > agreed > > > > > on to > > > > > > > > > prepare > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ignite 2.8 release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Preliminary release dates with the > ability to > > > > > shift > > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the planned activities will not be > finalized. > > > > > But > > > > > > > > > anyway > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> build our engagement based on these > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope Freeze: November 5, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Code Freeze: December 2, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Voting Date: January 10, 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Release Date: January 17, 2020 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, > Spark 2.4, > > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion t= o > be sure > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be > present in > > > > > 2.8 > > > > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Spark [1] [4] (Alexey Zinoviev) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Monitoring (Nikolay Izhikov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and mark all the partially > completed > > > > > major > > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> currently > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> present in the master branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - major IEPs e.g. IEP-18, > non-blocking PME > > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - review major commits in the master > branch > > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review blocker issues currently > pinned to 2.8 > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop > Accelerator > > > > > > > > > Discontinuation > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next > release > > > > > due to > > > > > > > > > > > > > dependency on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey > Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-9489 CorruptedTreeException > on index > > > > > create > > > > > > > > > [3]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the issues releated to this. Some of > them > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > fixed by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> GridGain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Need to check. (Andrey Gura) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-12181 Rebalance hangs on BL= T > change. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > cause > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> found. Will be fixed. (Maxim > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Need to check all the other blocke= r > issues > > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 5. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> QA regression (2.7 -> 2.8). I'll > provide > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> get > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and check test-cases, > optioannly > > > > > schedule > > > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Muzafarov) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (optional) Need to create an INFRA > ticket to > > > > > add > > > > > > > > > `Epic` > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> type to the Apache Ignite JIRA. The > issue [6] > > > > > has been > > > > > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure that I have the right permissio= n > to do > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/The-Spark-2-4-suppo= rt-td43777.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11942 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [3] > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9489 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [4] > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12054 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [5] > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12181 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [6] > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19164 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 12:14, Ivan > Pavlukhin < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> vololo100@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Maxim, Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Could you please share a results of > the Slack > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sep 25? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 25 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD= =D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 15:50, > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> dpavlov@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for preparing the releas= e > page! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Could you please add Require > release notes > > > > > filter? > > > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> find an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> example > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.7.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 25 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 11:58, Maxim > > > > > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> mmuzaf@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's true that we are still > discussing the > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nevertheless, all the release > blockers are > > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> them may require more than one > month to be > > > > > fixed. > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> how we will handle these issues > and track > > > > > > > > > Monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > and ML > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> major > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> features to get them into the nex= t > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The meeting already scheduled. We > will use > > > > > the ASF > > > > > > > > > > > Slack on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> September > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 25-th, 17-00 (MSK). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've created the channel [2] > > > > > #ignite-release-2_8 > > > > > > > > > > > please, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> join. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (Discussion will be on Russin > language). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please, also note that I've > created the > > > > > 2.8 release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> confluence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] with additional information. = I > will > > > > > review all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> issues we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and will move some of them to 2.9= . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But currently, we've had pinned t= o > 2.8: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 604 open issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 57 in progress issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 34 patch available issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 17 issues marked as the release > blockers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 4 of release blocker issues are > > > > > unassigned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [2] > > > > > > > > > https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 10:21, > Dmitriy > > > > > Pavlov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dpavlov@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose discussion is still at > phase > > > > > > > > > 0-Initializing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Proces= s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it is probably no reason to > discuss > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> blockers. It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sense when the process of remova= l > > > > > irrelevant > > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> starts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> (phase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> till phase 4-Release candidate > building. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> =D0=B2=D1=82, 24 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 18:53, > Anton > > > > > Kalashnikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> kaa.dev@yandex.ru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igniters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to notice one more > blocker for > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> bug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> lead to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some incorrect baseline default > enabled > > > > > flag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> calculation(more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ticket). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12227 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton Kalashnikov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24.09.2019, 17:01, "Andrey Gura= " > < > > > > > > > > > agura@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I know, scope freeze is not > > > > > announced yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:41 P= M > Sergey > > > > > Antonov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I would add to release > scope my > > > > > ticket > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any objections? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12225 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =D0=B2=D1=82, 24 =D1=81=D0= =B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 > 09:21, Nikolay > > > > > > > > > Izhikov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nizhikov@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > merge to master only > fully > > > > > finished > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It's already true for > Ignite > > > > > master branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > =D0=92 =D0=92=D1=82, 24/0= 9/2019 =D0=B2 09:03 > +0300, > > > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > > Zinoviev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > The planned before 2_3 > months > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > dates > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> defender > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > partially merged > features, In my > > > > > opinion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Or we should have Maste= r > and dev > > > > > branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> separetely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> merge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > only fully finished > features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > =D0=BF=D0=BD, 23 =D1=81= =D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3., > 20:27 Maxim > > > > > > > > > Muzafarov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mmuzaf@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Andrey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Agree with you. It ca= n > affect > > > > > the user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> impression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Can you advise, how > can we > > > > > guarantee > > > > > > > > > in our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > current partially > merged > > > > > features that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> someone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> will not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> partially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > merge the new one? > Should we > > > > > monitor > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> commits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > such purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 a= t > 20:18, > > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > > Gura < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> agura@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Maxim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > From my point, > if some > > > > > components > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> not be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ready by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > previously > discussed > > > > > `scope > > > > > > > > > freeze` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> date > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > perform the nex= t > (e.g. > > > > > 2.8.1, > > > > > > > > > 2.8.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> releases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > It is good approach > if > > > > > partial > > > > > > > > > > > implemented > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> aren't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> merged to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > master branch. > Unfortunately > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > I don't see any > reasons to > > > > > force new > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > not driver for > release. If > > > > > we want > > > > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ignite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> periodically > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > significantly revie= w > the > > > > > process. And > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> valuable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > process is feature > branches > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > will not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> block > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> new > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 201= 9 > at 8:12 > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > Andrey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Gura < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> agura@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > From my point > of view > > > > > > > > > monitoring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> isn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ready > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can you clarify= , > what > > > > > exactly is > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> ready? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can we track > planned > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > somehow? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > We have too many > not > > > > > resolved > > > > > > > > > tickets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> under > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> IEP-35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> label > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]. 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