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From Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Ignite 2.8 RELEASE [Time, Scope, Manager]
Date Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:45:50 GMT
I have no ideas, I think it's enough for this release.

As I understand it's not the proper time for Calcite integration and so on,
isn't it @Igor Seliverstov?

вт, 5 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:41, Maxim Muzafarov <mmuzaf@apache.org>:

> Igniters,
>
> Do we want to discuss something?
> What else features do we want to include?
>
> If not, I propose to exclude any other major features (except already
> discussed - ML, Monitoring, Spark) and focus on bug fixing and the
> master branch stabilization.
>
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 17:57, Akash Shinde <akashshinde@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Because I didn't see it in this list
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Releaseissuesgroupedbystatus
> >
> > Just wanted to make sure its a part on 2.8.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Akash
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:20 PM Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Akash,
> > >
> > > Why do you think it is not included? I see fix version 2.8 in ticket
> [1].
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884
> > >
> > > ср, 30 окт. 2019 г. в 17:29, Akash Shinde <akashshinde@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >  Could you please include IGNITE-10884
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10884> in 2.8 release.
> > > This
> > > > issue is blocker for me.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Akash
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:38 PM Maxim Muzafarov <mmuzaf@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Folks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems a week ago I've replied with the release info only to
> Artem.
> > > > > Sorry about that :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is what I've collected.
> > > > > Let's discuss!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Igniters,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] with the list
> of
> > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and about the
> additional
> > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, feel free to
> > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`.
> > > > >
> > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION *
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be completed before
> > > > > creating the release branch.
> > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring
> > > > > - ML
> > > > > - Spark 2.4
> > > > >
> > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * TO DISCUSS *
> > > > >
> > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but discussion not
> > > > > finalized yet
> > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find and resolve
> > > > > packages conflicts
> > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461
> > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite
> > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189
> > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await may hang a
> cluster
> > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES *
> > > > >
> > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows any
> additional
> > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step in.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key
> > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552
> > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and server nodes
> restart
> > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184
> > > > >
> > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * DOCUMENTATION *
> > > > >
> > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite documentation
> sorted
> > > > > by priority.
> > > > >
> > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 16:53, Maxim Muzafarov <mmuzaf@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've prepared the Apache Ignite 2.8 release page [1] with the
> list of
> > > > > > known issues which are related to 2.8 release and about the
> > > additional
> > > > > > release information. If I've missed something, please, feel free
> to
> > > > > > set `fix version` with `2.8`.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * WAITING FOR COMPLETION *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the list of major features which must be completed before
> > > > > > creating the release branch.
> > > > > > - Apache ignite new monitoring
> > > > > > - ML
> > > > > > - Spark 2.4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Awatingfeaturescompletion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * TO DISCUSS *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Previously some of the features were mentioned but discussion not
> > > > > finalized yet
> > > > > > - Automatic modules support for Apache Ignite: find and resolve
> > > > > > packages conflicts
> > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11461
> > > > > > - Support Java 11 for Apache Ignite
> > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11189
> > > > > > - Callbacks from the striped pool due to async/await may hang a
> > > cluster
> > > > > >   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12033
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * KNOWN ISSUES *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bugs and features sorted by priority. If someone knows any
> additional
> > > > > > information about any of `blocker` issue, please, step in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Unable to use date as primary key
> > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8552
> > > > > > - Cluster hangs during concurrent node client and server nodes
> > > restart
> > > > > >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9184
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolvedissues(notrelatedtodocumentation)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * DOCUMENTATION *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The list of issues\tasks related to Apache Ignite documentation
> > > sorted
> > > > > > by priority.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Details:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8#ApacheIgnite2.8-Unresolveddocumentationtasks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 18:18, Artem Budnikov
> > > > > > <a.budnikov.ignite@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Maxim,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm glad to see that you care about documentation. Way to go!
> Here
> > > is a
> > > > > > > couple of points that can help:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) I think it's safe to assume that Prachi will not work on the
> > > Ignite
> > > > > > > documentation any longer. You can take up the issues assigned
> to
> > > her
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > prioritize them whichever way is convenient for yourself. In
> fact,
> > > you
> > > > > > > can take up other's issues as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) I'll try to do my best to finish as much documentation
> issues as
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > be able to by the release date.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, it looks like that in general we are good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Artem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 13.10.2019 15:55, Maxim Muzafarov wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ilya,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I agree that issues related to `documentation` can be safely
> > > > > > > > postponed, however, for me the whole batch of such issues
> looks
> > > > > > > > unmanageable and unclear. At least we should prioritize all
> of
> > > them
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > complete the maximum that we can by the deadline.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:47, Ilya Kasnacheev <
> > > > > ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Hello!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I think that Documentation tickets may be safely postponed
> until
> > > > > final
> > > > > > > >> stages of release, since it's not included in artifacts,
> rather
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > >> on readme.io, etc.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 14:41, Pavel Kovalenko <
> > > jokserfn@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Issues link is broken, because it has a filter that can't
> be
> > > found.
> > > > > > > >>> Here is correct link:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> чт, 10 окт. 2019 г. в 13:38, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > mmuzaf@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Who can advise what we can\should do with the issues
> related
> > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> `documentation` component to release Ignite 2.8 version?
> > > > > > > >>>> How can I sort them and prioritize?
> > > > > > > >>>> What are best-practices here?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Currently, we have 81 issues pinned to 2.8 release [1].
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> 6 - `In Progress`
> > > > > > > >>>> 2 - `Patch Available`
> > > > > > > >>>> 73 - `Open`
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Some of the issues are assigned to the `Prachi Garg`
> which is
> > > not
> > > > > > > >>>> active since February 15-th 2019.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12347303&jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20%22Patch%20Available%22)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20component%20%3D%20Documentation%20order%20by%20status
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 01:52, Denis Magda <
> dmagda@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>> Maxim,
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> This sounds reasonable to me.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> -
> > > > > > > >>>>> Denis
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:55 AM Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Folks,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Since we are focusing on new SQL engine implementation
> I'd
> > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>>>>> perform bulk moving of all MVCC related unassigned
> tickets
> > > [1]
> > > > > to the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> next release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Can you confirm?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Ignite%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.8%20and%20priority%20in%20(Major)%20and%20summary%20~%20MVCC
> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 01:27, Denis Magda <
> dmagda@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Alexey Z.,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Could you please answer some of the questions
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator
> Discontinuation
> > > > > [2].
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next release due to
> > > > > dependency on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can we decouple Tensorflow from the IGFS?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark 2.4,
> Monitoring
> > > major
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be sure on
> there is
> > > no
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in 2.8
> release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Are there any other ML contributors who will be
> helping you
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > >>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> release?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Denis
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:56 AM Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Here is the list of activities we've agreed on to
> prepare
> > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ignite 2.8 release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Preliminary release dates with the ability to shift
> them
> > > if
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > >>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the planned activities will not be finalized. But
> anyway
> > > we
> > > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> build our engagement based on these dates.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope Freeze: November 5, 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Code Freeze: December 2, 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Voting Date: January 10, 2020
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Release Date: January 17, 2020
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Mark all the issues related to ML, Spark 2.4,
> Monitoring
> > > major
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features and track their comletion to be sure on
> there is
> > > no
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> unfinished major changes will be present in 2.8
> release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - ML (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Spark [1] [4] (Alexey Zinoviev)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Monitoring (Nikolay Izhikov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 3.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and mark all the partially completed major
> issues
> > > > > > > >>> currently
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> present in the master branch.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - major IEPs e.g. IEP-18, non-blocking PME (Maxim
> > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - review major commits in the master branch (Maxim
> > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review blocker issues currently pinned to 2.8 release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-11942 IGFS and Hadoop Accelerator
> Discontinuation
> > > > > [2].
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Probably should be moved to the next release due to
> > > > > dependency on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Tensorflow. Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-9489 CorruptedTreeException on index create
> [3].
> > > > > Check
> > > > > > > >>> all
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the issues releated to this. Some of them already
> fixed by
> > > > > > > >>>> GridGain.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Need to check. (Andrey Gura)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - IGNITE-12181 Rebalance hangs on BLT change. The
> cause
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> found. Will be fixed. (Maxim Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> - Need to check all the other blocker issues (Maxim
> > > Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 5.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> QA regression (2.7 -> 2.8). I'll provide additional
> > > details
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > >>>> I'll
> > > > > > > >>>>>> get
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> them.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Review and check test-cases, optioannly schedule
> meeting
> > > > > (Maxim
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Muzafarov)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 6.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (optional) Need to create an INFRA ticket to add
> `Epic`
> > > JIRA
> > > > > > > >>> issue
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> type to the Apache Ignite JIRA. The issue [6] has been
> > > created
> > > > > > > >>> but
> > > > > > > >>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure that I have the right permission to do so.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > >
> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/The-Spark-2-4-support-td43777.html
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [2]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11942
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9489
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [4]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12054
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [5]
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12181
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [6] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19164
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 12:14, Ivan Pavlukhin <
> > > > > > > >>> vololo100@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Maxim, Folks,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Could you please share a results of the Slack
> discussion
> > > from
> > > > > > > >>>> Sep 25?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 15:50, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > > > > > > >>> dpavlov@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for preparing the release page!
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Could you please add Require release notes filter?
> You
> > > can
> > > > > > > >>>> find an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> example
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.7.6
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> ср, 25 сент. 2019 г. в 11:58, Maxim Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >>>> mmuzaf@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's true that we are still discussing the release
> > > dates.
> > > > > > > >>> But
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nevertheless, all the release blockers are
> important
> > > since
> > > > > > > >>>> some
> > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> them may require more than one month to be fixed.
> Let's
> > > > > > > >>>> discuss
> > > > > > > >>>>>> today
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> how we will handle these issues and track
> Monitoring
> > > and ML
> > > > > > > >>>> major
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> features to get them into the next release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The meeting already scheduled. We will use the ASF
> > > Slack on
> > > > > > > >>>>>> September
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 25-th, 17-00 (MSK).
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've created the channel [2] #ignite-release-2_8
> > > please,
> > > > > > > >>>> join.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (Discussion will be on Russin language).
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please, also note that I've created the 2.8 release
> > > > > > > >>>> confluence
> > > > > > > >>>>>> page
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] with additional information. I will review all
> the
> > > > > > > >>>> issues we
> > > > > > > >>>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and will move some of them to 2.9.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But currently, we've had pinned to 2.8:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 604 open issues
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 57 in progress issues
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 34 patch available issues
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 17 issues marked as the release blockers
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - 4 of release blocker issues are unassigned
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+2.8
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> https://app.slack.com/client/T4S1WH2J3/CNQ51M4FQ
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 10:21, Dmitriy Pavlov <
> > > > > > > >>>> dpavlov@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose discussion is still at phase
> 0-Initializing
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it is probably no reason to discuss particular
> > > > > > > >>>> blockers. It
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> would make
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sense when the process of removal irrelevant
> tickets
> > > > > > > >>> starts
> > > > > > > >>>>>> (phase
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 1.2)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> till phase 4-Release candidate building.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 18:53, Anton Kalashnikov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>> kaa.dev@yandex.ru
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igniters.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to notice one more blocker for release
> [1].
> > > This
> > > > > > > >>>> bug
> > > > > > > >>>>>> can
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> lead to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some incorrect baseline default enabled flag
> > > > > > > >>>> calculation(more
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> details
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ticket).
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12227
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton Kalashnikov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24.09.2019, 17:01, "Andrey Gura" <
> agura@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I know, scope freeze is not announced yet.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:41 PM Sergey Antonov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <antonovsergey93@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi, I would add to release scope my ticket
> [1].
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Any objections?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   [1]
> > > > > > > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12225
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   вт, 24 сент. 2019 г. в 09:21, Nikolay
> Izhikov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nizhikov@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > merge to master only fully finished
> features
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > It's already true for Ignite master branch.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > В Вт, 24/09/2019 в 09:03 +0300, Alexey
> Zinoviev
> > > > > > > >>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > The planned before 2_3 months release
> dates
> > > are
> > > > > > > >>>> good
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> defender
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > partially merged features, In my opinion
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > Or we should have Master and dev branch
> > > > > > > >>>> separetely,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> merge
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > only fully finished features
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г., 20:27 Maxim
> Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mmuzaf@apache.org
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> :
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Andrey,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Agree with you. It can affect the user
> > > > > > > >>>> impression.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Can you advise, how can we guarantee
> in our
> > > > > > > >>>> case
> > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete with
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > current partially merged features that
> > > > > > > >>> someone
> > > > > > > >>>>>> will not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> partially
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > merge the new one? Should we monitor
> the
> > > > > > > >>> master
> > > > > > > >>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> commits
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > such purpose?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 20:18, Andrey
> Gura <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> agura@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > From my point, if some components
> > > will
> > > > > > > >>>> not be
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ready by
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > previously discussed `scope
> freeze`
> > > > > > > >>> date
> > > > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > perform the next (e.g. 2.8.1,
> 2.8.2)
> > > > > > > >>>>>> releases.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > It is good approach if partial
> > > implemented
> > > > > > > >>>>>> features
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> aren't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> merged to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > master branch. Unfortunately this is
> not
> > > > > > > >>> our
> > > > > > > >>>>>> case.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > I don't see any reasons to force new
> > > Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Ignite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Time is
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > not driver for release. If we want
> > > release
> > > > > > > >>>> Ignite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> periodically
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > must
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > significantly review the process. And
> > > most
> > > > > > > >>>>>> valuable
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> change
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > process is feature branches that
> will not
> > > > > > > >>>> block
> > > > > > > >>>>>> new
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release by
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > design.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 8:12 PM
> Andrey
> > > > > > > >>> Gura <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> agura@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> monitoring
> > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is
> not
> > > > > > > >>>> ready?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can we track planned changes
> somehow?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > We have too many not resolved
> tickets
> > > > > > > >>> under
> > > > > > > >>>>>> IEP-35
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> label
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]. Also
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > makes sense to do some usability
> > > testing:
> > > > > > > >>>> JMX
> > > > > > > >>>>>> beans
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > system
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > views, etc.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=labels%20%3D%20IEP-35
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:04 PM
> Nikolay
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Izhikov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > nizhikov@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Hello, Andrey.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> monitoring
> > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can you clarify, what exactly is
> not
> > > > > > > >>>> ready?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > Can we track planned changes
> somehow?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 17:59 +0300,
> > > Andrey
> > > > > > > >>>> Gura
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > From my point of view
> monitoring
> > > > > > > >>> isn't
> > > > > > > >>>>>> ready
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release. So it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > would
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > be great to return to this
> > > discussion
> > > > > > > >>>>>> later.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> It seems
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > beginning
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > of November is good time for
> it.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:37 PM
> > > > > > > >>> Alexey
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > Nikolay Izhikov, ok, let's
> > > arrange
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> talk
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in ASF
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> slack
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > between
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > 16 and 19
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > MSK, is it possible?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в 17:35,
> > > > > > > >>> Alexey
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > Ok, I'll clarify the
> situation
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML
> module is
> > > > > > > >>>> like a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> black box
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > What
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > exactly
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > we are expected to get by
> the
> > > > > > > >>> code
> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> date?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Do
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > tickets we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > - Yes, we have a few epics
> that
> > > > > > > >>>> are not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> finished
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, due
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > limited free
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > time the planned dates were
> > > > > > > >>> written
> > > > > > > >>>>>> earlier
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move code
> > > > > > > >>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>>>> date to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-th
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > but,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > your side, do you think
> that
> > > > > > > >>>> 2-weeks of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > regression
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > will be enough for the
> master
> > > > > > > >>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>> living
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> without
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > for a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > Ok, I've ready to move code
> > > > > > > >>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> dates
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > to 1
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > November, it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > sounds weird (why we
> should go
> > > so
> > > > > > > >>>> fast
> > > > > > > >>>>>> if
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> haven't
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > during the year)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > I'm against fast releasing
> > > > > > > >>> without
> > > > > > > >>>>>> planned
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> dates.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think about
> that
> > > > > > > >>> we
> > > > > > > >>>> will
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> make the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge 2.8
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > November with long period
> of
> > > > > > > >>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> stabilization
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > additional
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML
> component
> > > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> January? Such
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > approach
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > have some
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > advantages like we will not
> > > rush
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> development
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ML
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > components.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > The best idea here is
> ability
> > > to
> > > > > > > >>>> merge
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> last
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ML
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > during
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > stabilization period (bug
> > > fixing,
> > > > > > > >>>> tests
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and so
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> on),
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > ok
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > for you?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 could be a good
> point,
> > > but
> > > > > > > >>>>>> remind you
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> guys, the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > normal
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > practice to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > plan release for 2 months
> and
> > > ask
> > > > > > > >>>>>> another
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> maintainers about
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > another modules
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > maybe the need additional
> > > > > > > >>>> clarification
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> another
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > committers.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > пн, 23 сент. 2019 г. в
> 13:35,
> > > > > > > >>>> Nikolay
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Izhikov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > nizhikov@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > +1 to start releasing
> 2.8 in
> > > > > > > >>>>>> November or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> even
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the end
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > October.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Alex, can we schedule
> some
> > > > > > > >>> quick
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> meetings in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > Ignite
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Slack chat
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > and discuss all release
> date
> > > > > > > >>>> details?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Wendseday, 25 September
> is
> > > good
> > > > > > > >>>> for
> > > > > > > >>>>>> you?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > В Пн, 23/09/2019 в 13:31
> > > +0300,
> > > > > > > >>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Muzafarov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> пишет:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > Can you, please,
> clarify
> > > some
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> questions.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Currently, the ML
> module
> > > > > > > >>> is
> > > > > > > >>>>>> like a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> black
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> box
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for me.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > What exactly
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > we are expected to get
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > > >>>> code
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> date?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > tickets we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > should address to?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I think we can move
> code
> > > > > > > >>>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> date to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > 11-th
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > but, from
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > your side, do you think
> > > that
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2-weeks of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > regression
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > will be enough for the
> > > master
> > > > > > > >>>>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> living
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release for a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > year?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What do you think
> about
> > > > > > > >>>> that we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will make
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > 2.8
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > release in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > November with long
> period
> > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stabilization and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > additional
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > 2.8.1 release with ML
> > > > > > > >>>> component in
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> January?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Such
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > approach have some
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > advantages like we
> will not
> > > > > > > >>>> rush
> > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> development
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of ML
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > components.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at
> > > 17:24,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Alexey
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > I wrote about code
> freeze
> > > > > > > >>> at
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> December 18,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2019, ok,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > we
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > can move one
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > week
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > earlier to 11
> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting + Release
> could be
> > > > > > > >>>> after
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 10th
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> January.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент. 2019 г.
> в
> > > > > > > >>> 15:43,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > mmuzaf@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexey,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a
> problem to
> > > > > > > >>>> shift
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> later or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > earlier, but I'm
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > strictly against
> having
> > > > > > > >>>> `code
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> freeze`
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> stage
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > holidays (the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Christmas
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > holidays at the
> end of
> > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and New
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Year
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > holidays
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > at the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > of January). From
> my
> > > > > > > >>> point,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> it's
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have it
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > completed `code
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > freeze` stage
> before
> > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 23th
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> started after
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > 10th January.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep
> 2019 at
> > > > > > > >>>> 15:09,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Pavlov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > dpavlov@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Maxim as
> > > release
> > > > > > > >>>>>> manager.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good
> thing
> > > that
> > > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > > >>>>>> have
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> committer
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > rights,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > and most of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > the steps
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will be able
> to
> > > > > > > >>>> complete
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> yourself.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But please
> engage one
> > > > > > > >>>> from
> > > > > > > >>>>>> PMC
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> member
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > steps from the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process where PMC
> > > > > > > >>> rights
> > > > > > > >>>> are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> required
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Process
> > > > > > > >>>> At
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least, access to
> > > docker
> > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nuget creds
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > PMC
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > membership.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ping
> > > me, I
> > > > > > > >>>> will
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> assist, as
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент.
> 2019 г.
> > > в
> > > > > > > >>>> 14:59,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Alexey
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > zaleslaw.sin@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Spark and
> ML
> > > > > > > >>>> components
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the best
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > should
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > be moved to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > one month
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later, what's
> > > about?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a
> lot of
> > > > > > > >>>> features
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > bugs and minor
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements in
> > > JIRA
> > > > > > > >>>> too
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also I support
> you
> > > > > > > >>> as a
> > > > > > > >>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> manager
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze:
> > > > > > > >>> December
> > > > > > > >>>> 4,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze:
> > > December
> > > > > > > >>>> 18,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date:
> > > January
> > > > > > > >>>> 10,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date:
> > > January
> > > > > > > >>>> 17,
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 20 сент.
> 2019
> > > г.
> > > > > > > >>> в
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 14:44,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Maxim
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Muzafarov <
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > mmuzaf@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's almost a
> > > year
> > > > > > > >>>> has
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> passed since
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the last
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > major Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > Ignite 2.7
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has been
> > > released.
> > > > > > > >>>> We've
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> accumulated a
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > performance
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a lot of
> new
> > > > > > > >>>> features
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> which are
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > for
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > their release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > date.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my
> list
> > > of
> > > > > > > >>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>> most
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> interesting
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > things
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > from my point
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last major
> > > release:
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Service Grid,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitoring,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recovery Read
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BLT
> auto-adjust,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PDS
> compression,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WAL page
> > > > > > > >>> compression,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client:
> best
> > > > > > > >>>> effort
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> affinity,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thin client:
> > > > > > > >>>> transactions
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> support
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (not
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet)
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL query
> history
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL
> statistics
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we
> should
> > > > > > > >>> no
> > > > > > > >>>>>> longer
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wait
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > master branch
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and prepare
> the
> > > > > > > >>> next
> > > > > > > >>>>>> major
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> by
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > end of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > the year.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I propose to
> > > > > > > >>> discuss
> > > > > > > >>>>>> Time,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Scope of
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > Ignite 2.8 release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to
> propose
> > > > > > > >>>> myself
> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> be the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > manager of the
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > planning
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scope Freeze:
> > > > > > > >>>> November 4,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Code Freeze:
> > > > > > > >>>> November 18,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Voting Date:
> > > > > > > >>>> December 10,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Release Date:
> > > > > > > >>>> December
> > > > > > > >>>>>> 17,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2019
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WDYT?
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   BR, Sergey Antonov
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Ivan Pavlukhin
> > >
>

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