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From Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] PMC Chair rotation time
Date Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:24:15 GMT
IMHO, today Dmitriy Pavlov is the best candidate for this role. He
invested a lot into community health and productivity (TC bot and much
more).

вт, 22 окт. 2019 г. в 09:15, Vyacheslav Daradur <daradurvs@gmail.com>:
>
> Igniters, I'd suggest 2 candidates who perfectly fit this role, in my opinion:
>
> Nickolay Izhikov - one of the most active community member with the
> significant contributions, Ignite's evangelist and tech-speaker.
>
> Alexey Goncharuk - Ignite's veteran, one of the Ignite's code-base
> expert with the project's architecture vision.
>
> I hope they would like to be PMC Chair!)
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 8:21 AM Denis Magda <dmagda@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Igniters,
> >
> > It’s been almost 3 years since my election as the PMC Chair and I’d like
> > the community to give other PMC members an opportunity to serve in this
> > role. It’s healthy to rotate the role more frequently and we’re already
> > due. Though the chair doesn’t have formal power, he/she can bring a fresh
> > perspective and help to navigate the community via trails not considered
> > before.
> >
> > Please propose candidates selecting among active PMC members:
> > https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html#people
> >
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> > On Monday, December 5, 2016, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't forgotten. Just got back from a business trip. Will start a vote
> > > this week.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cos, I will start the vote soon. A bit over occupied with travel and
> > > > holidays at this moment.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Ok,
> > > >>
> > > >> This was a great discussion, thanks for the deep insight, Roman!
> > > >>
> > > >> looks like this thread has stewed for a while and it is time to [VOTE].
> > > >> The
> > > >> following candidates were put forward during the [DISCUSS] (in the
order
> > > >> of
> > > >> their appearance on the thread):
> > > >>
> > > >>   Dmitriy Setrakyan
> > > >>   Vladimir Ozerov
> > > >>   Konstantin Boudnik
> > > >>   Valentin Kulichenko
> > > >>   Denis Magda
> > > >>   Branko Čibej
> > > >>
> > > >> Considering the number of the candidates I propose to use
> > > >> First-past-the-post
> > > >> voting, with a single-round/single winner rules, where the candidate
> > > >> collecting the most votes (not the majority) wins. [1]
> > > >>
> > > >> Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start the formal [VOTE]?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>   Cos
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
> > > >> > <dsetrakyan@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >> > > While all the candidates suggested so far look good, I would
propose
> > > >> Denis
> > > >> > > Magda as the next PMC chair. His participation in the project
does
> > > >> not only
> > > >> > > have to do with the code, but also with Ignite project overall,
> > > >> including
> > > >> > > website, documentation, new tickets, design, etc.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sorry to come to this thread rather late, but I wanted to offer
a
> > > >> somewhat
> > > >> > different perspective that hopefully can help reframe this discussion
> > > >> > a little bit.
> > > >> > Note, that what I'm about to say is coming from a non-coding
(on
> > > >> Ignite) member
> > > >> > of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC after graduation more
with my
> > > >> ASF
> > > >> > member hat on, rather than as somebody who wanted to directly
> > > contribute
> > > >> > to where the technology was going. My concern during your incubation
> > > >> days
> > > >> > was (and still is!) how well are you guys doing on the community
> > > >> development
> > > >> > front.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you recall, the diversity requirement (the fact that more
than 80%
> > > >> of project
> > > >> > members work for the same company) came up during our graduation.
> > > While
> > > >> > it wasn't a blocking requirement it still was a very valid concern.
> > > >> Monocultures
> > > >> > are really nasty for open source communities.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think it would be fair to say that Ignite community hasn't
really
> > > >> > improved much
> > > >> > diversity-wise since its graduation. And I honestly feel that
this is,
> > > >> > to a larger
> > > >> > extent, because the focus is now missing. It was well understood
that
> > > >> in order
> > > >> > to graduate the community had to do all it can to demonstrate
a
> > > >> > positive trajectory
> > > >> > in that direction. And we did. But we kind of dropped the ball
on it
> > > >> since.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > With that in mind, I offer my view on what a change in the Chair
could
> > > >> > offer: a renewed
> > > >> > focus on community growth and development. If you agree with
this
> > > >> premise than
> > > >> > somebody like Branko or Cos who could act as a forcing function
to
> > > >> constantly
> > > >> > remind us about what else can we do to grow and develop this
community
> > > >> would
> > > >> > be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all Branko's "tough love"
was
> > > >> > probably the
> > > >> > most useful part of Ignite's experience in the Incubator).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't have to be a Chair
to do
> > > >> > that. But lets
> > > >> > face it -- that helps. And besides, a project's Chair doesn't
really
> > > >> > have any special
> > > >> > powers when it comes to technological consensus, but anything
that has
> > > >> to do
> > > >> > with external community the VP title that the chair gets can
help
> > > quite
> > > >> a bit.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as former mentors) would
like to
> > > >> > commit to 6 more
> > > >> > months of the same hands-on mentorship focused on community
> > > development
> > > >> -- they
> > > >> > would have my wholehearted support.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Roman (with my PMC member hat on).
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -
> > Denis
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards, Vyacheslav D.



-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Pavlukhin

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