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From Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] PMC Chair rotation time
Date Wed, 23 Oct 2019 21:31:45 GMT
Folks,

Any other candidates or opinions before I start the vote?

-
Denis


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 2:33 AM Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> +1 to all three :)
>
> Regards,
> --
> Ilya Kasnacheev
>
>
> вт, 22 окт. 2019 г. в 09:24, Ivan Pavlukhin <vololo100@gmail.com>:
>
> > IMHO, today Dmitriy Pavlov is the best candidate for this role. He
> > invested a lot into community health and productivity (TC bot and much
> > more).
> >
> > вт, 22 окт. 2019 г. в 09:15, Vyacheslav Daradur <daradurvs@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Igniters, I'd suggest 2 candidates who perfectly fit this role, in my
> > opinion:
> > >
> > > Nickolay Izhikov - one of the most active community member with the
> > > significant contributions, Ignite's evangelist and tech-speaker.
> > >
> > > Alexey Goncharuk - Ignite's veteran, one of the Ignite's code-base
> > > expert with the project's architecture vision.
> > >
> > > I hope they would like to be PMC Chair!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 8:21 AM Denis Magda <dmagda@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Igniters,
> > > >
> > > > It’s been almost 3 years since my election as the PMC Chair and I’d
> > like
> > > > the community to give other PMC members an opportunity to serve in
> this
> > > > role. It’s healthy to rotate the role more frequently and we’re
> already
> > > > due. Though the chair doesn’t have formal power, he/she can bring a
> > fresh
> > > > perspective and help to navigate the community via trails not
> > considered
> > > > before.
> > > >
> > > > Please propose candidates selecting among active PMC members:
> > > > https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html#people
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Denis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, December 5, 2016, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I haven't forgotten. Just got back from a business trip. Will start
> > a vote
> > > > > this week.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Cos, I will start the vote soon. A bit over occupied with travel
> > and
> > > > > > holidays at this moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > cos@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Ok,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This was a great discussion, thanks for the deep insight,
Roman!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> looks like this thread has stewed for a while and it is
time to
> > [VOTE].
> > > > > >> The
> > > > > >> following candidates were put forward during the [DISCUSS]
(in
> > the order
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> their appearance on the thread):
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>   Dmitriy Setrakyan
> > > > > >>   Vladimir Ozerov
> > > > > >>   Konstantin Boudnik
> > > > > >>   Valentin Kulichenko
> > > > > >>   Denis Magda
> > > > > >>   Branko Čibej
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Considering the number of the candidates I propose to use
> > > > > >> First-past-the-post
> > > > > >> voting, with a single-round/single winner rules, where the
> > candidate
> > > > > >> collecting the most votes (not the majority) wins. [1]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dmitriy, would you do the honors and start the formal [VOTE]?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >>   Cos
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:19PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan
> > > > > >> > <dsetrakyan@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > While all the candidates suggested so far look
good, I would
> > propose
> > > > > >> Denis
> > > > > >> > > Magda as the next PMC chair. His participation
in the
> project
> > does
> > > > > >> not only
> > > > > >> > > have to do with the code, but also with Ignite
project
> > overall,
> > > > > >> including
> > > > > >> > > website, documentation, new tickets, design, etc.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Sorry to come to this thread rather late, but I wanted
to
> offer
> > a
> > > > > >> somewhat
> > > > > >> > different perspective that hopefully can help reframe
this
> > discussion
> > > > > >> > a little bit.
> > > > > >> > Note, that what I'm about to say is coming from a non-coding
> (on
> > > > > >> Ignite) member
> > > > > >> > of the PMC. In fact, I stayed on the PMC after graduation
more
> > with my
> > > > > >> ASF
> > > > > >> > member hat on, rather than as somebody who wanted to
directly
> > > > > contribute
> > > > > >> > to where the technology was going. My concern during
your
> > incubation
> > > > > >> days
> > > > > >> > was (and still is!) how well are you guys doing on
the
> community
> > > > > >> development
> > > > > >> > front.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > If you recall, the diversity requirement (the fact
that more
> > than 80%
> > > > > >> of project
> > > > > >> > members work for the same company) came up during our
> > graduation.
> > > > > While
> > > > > >> > it wasn't a blocking requirement it still was a very
valid
> > concern.
> > > > > >> Monocultures
> > > > > >> > are really nasty for open source communities.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I think it would be fair to say that Ignite community
hasn't
> > really
> > > > > >> > improved much
> > > > > >> > diversity-wise since its graduation. And I honestly
feel that
> > this is,
> > > > > >> > to a larger
> > > > > >> > extent, because the focus is now missing. It was well
> > understood that
> > > > > >> in order
> > > > > >> > to graduate the community had to do all it can to demonstrate
> a
> > > > > >> > positive trajectory
> > > > > >> > in that direction. And we did. But we kind of dropped
the ball
> > on it
> > > > > >> since.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > With that in mind, I offer my view on what a change
in the
> > Chair could
> > > > > >> > offer: a renewed
> > > > > >> > focus on community growth and development. If you agree
with
> > this
> > > > > >> premise than
> > > > > >> > somebody like Branko or Cos who could act as a forcing
> function
> > to
> > > > > >> constantly
> > > > > >> > remind us about what else can we do to grow and develop
this
> > community
> > > > > >> would
> > > > > >> > be an ideal choice for the Chair (after all Branko's
"tough
> > love" was
> > > > > >> > probably the
> > > > > >> > most useful part of Ignite's experience in the Incubator).
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Now, of course, strictly speaking you don't have to
be a Chair
> > to do
> > > > > >> > that. But lets
> > > > > >> > face it -- that helps. And besides, a project's Chair
doesn't
> > really
> > > > > >> > have any special
> > > > > >> > powers when it comes to technological consensus, but
anything
> > that has
> > > > > >> to do
> > > > > >> > with external community the VP title that the chair
gets can
> > help
> > > > > quite
> > > > > >> a bit.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Long story short: if Branko or Cos (as former mentors)
would
> > like to
> > > > > >> > commit to 6 more
> > > > > >> > months of the same hands-on mentorship focused on community
> > > > > development
> > > > > >> -- they
> > > > > >> > would have my wholehearted support.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > > > > >> > Roman (with my PMC member hat on).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -
> > > > Denis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards, Vyacheslav D.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan Pavlukhin
> >
>

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