From dev-return-38424-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@ignite.apache.org Thu Aug 30 11:20:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD5B180656 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 11:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 27911 invoked by uid 500); 30 Aug 2018 09:20:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ignite.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@ignite.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ignite.apache.org Received: (qmail 27892 invoked by uid 99); 30 Aug 2018 09:20:20 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:20:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 072791A1152 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:20:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.282 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.282 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01, URI_HEX=1.313] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gridgain-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lCBuXLegh6Pp for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f52.google.com (mail-vk0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id E274A5F3AA for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id j14-v6so3926211vke.8 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gridgain-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GgIJOOyiTwboMFDGEYw7k6ptVvi9puKmBLIWbGhhavI=; b=rw/rnKMIUuCq+FFogk6nvhv4MmBSvtUIc2qGHsNHt8vrCI6PJ8N56Ll1r95hFG9fOO 39tqkrXeM9UB5Eipur7o0aYD1UQXFa9jcCFB43ZwYw1Cw0OMx6fK1M0QDJjRegblIoD0 OhAhmFwLyj5UkbaiTi9HGvEvdfjJux0Zg/Ixxwyd3M2Ra2VDgCRtlyA87ykj+rnhBtu7 u8S5V1C6CtPdpdwngOrOFCUZXv694Y1QpfW88vtzpoO5x4bMaWKa08Vsr/luvdvTzz98 7+TOFIQOKbR5iKb4+9G8mMF+8uJWufLWCreuRrZO5q8xFsPHw0ZRmNzaTApDJGqlInFk V2zg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=GgIJOOyiTwboMFDGEYw7k6ptVvi9puKmBLIWbGhhavI=; b=S+UF7j6t/sb7sjSDPtq9799SltV4bFf7m0RCZfkZRKbXNjuzevxCnkmdPXJeT+ti4A tubM2glH995rR9nIQs0X24XYdyxddZQX5nkSioYy9dc1h9YhXvaq/0N521WipiVKVK3h 0fSq4Fj4UO6Mvyx6/VKwuKK4FIbvtSREalJl5z+7FgvPZnZYLPerweQksdIHDrtpBwan M2VRvgFlqV5E9k9Qw9j2Uu1EHUW+ct63PNNeOjfN290tSY5Jm0G5NeE79juTbK7svMFI ICJWm+WNEdvkEy6nyFNnhwvF/QghdB/nnl9+UfWZRwoPz7vOUvtBM37Fkyxsj5hBGBAe X8tg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51A9tFf31a7mRPyg18TL3CGpw6SbojdK8U75otLNvBLBRdP/fPs2 DFkAgDWx55G/TqdkvC5E+CbqsJKK5r1P5RO+kEO0zrVC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZM01FwsD5MvqES7XX1zkICYmrhj8Sfj2Qh4sIKPfUbs199GsivLpC1IQRDqAkCrbktIQitXVp5kNTl1iJOr8s= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:f284:: with SMTP id q126-v6mr6110983vkh.136.1535620811067; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:20:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Vladimir Ozerov Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:19:58 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bots on dev list To: dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f42e970574a3949a" --000000000000f42e970574a3949a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is somewhat controversial question. Some people has filters, some doesn't. And it s true that at the moment it is hard to find pieces of human communication in tons of automated e-mails (JIRA, GitHub, TC bot). If to put JIRA and GitHub aside (let's do not mix things), personally content of TC bot looks not very good. I doubt that contributors known how to react to it. If we want contributors to take actions on specific problem, we should send emails directly to them, not to everyone. For me good solution looks as follows: 1) Create separate channel for bot messages 2) "To" field should contain this channel and e-mails of specific people Thoughts? On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:41 AM Denis Mekhanikov wrote: > I guess, nobody uses it because it's flooded by bots. > It may be useful to lookup old threads for people, who are not subscribed > to the mailing list from the beginning of time. > > Denis > > =D1=87=D1=82, 30 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 3:39, Dmitriy Se= trakyan : > > > Is anyone in the community using or was using Nabble for the dev list > > communication? Personally, I am subscribed to the dev list and use > filters > > in my email client. > > > > D. > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:40 AM, Denis Mekhanikov > > > wrote: > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > Yep, I use filters on my mail account. But the portal is impossible t= o > > use. > > > When you subscribe to the dev list for the first time, you don't have > any > > > history on your email, > > > and the archive is polluted with messages, sent by bots. > > > > > > Some view on Nabble, that doesn't contain any automatically generated > > > messages, would help here. > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > =D1=81=D1=80, 29 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 12:26, Dmitr= ii Ryabov : > > > > > > > Modern mail services allow users to filter messages. You can easil= y > > > filter > > > > out bot messages. > > > > > > > > 2018-08-29 11:48 GMT+03:00 Denis Mekhanikov = : > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > > > > > > > > > We have a lot of threads, created by bots on the dev list. > > > > > Currently messages are sent by JIRA, GitHub and MTCGA bots. Maybe= , > > some > > > > > others too, but these are the most active. > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at this page: > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble. > > > > > com/Apache-Ignite-Developers-f1i35.html > > > > > It's hard to find actual discussions in this mess. I'd like to se= e > > > > > something like what we have on the users list: > > > > > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/ > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't seem necessary to me to mix discussions with this > cryptic > > > flow > > > > > of information. > > > > > Can we create a separate mailing list for bots? > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --000000000000f42e970574a3949a--