From dev-return-37339-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@ignite.apache.org Thu Aug 2 10:33:03 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AD34180629 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 46105 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2018 08:33:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ignite.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@ignite.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ignite.apache.org Received: (qmail 46093 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2018 08:33:01 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 08:33:01 +0000 Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com (mail-it0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id EC0531405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d9-v6so2108356itf.2 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 01:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHNw+OaTNJrwvlRFHNWe+UuvgcspA8g8oqO9U5oCP6aR9S/1Gun DYT70x392UbTfaE1LPex2HjCjomBEJGsrotI9/M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdAQZ9L5nlms2+VUoFYBR5sQOl75f0TxSgql12yukJKRYdEC2fVBFYA+5W0ccnZudWgtb/p+ZUGpN8qZEsyfqU= X-Received: by 2002:a24:b842:: with SMTP id m63-v6mr1583224ite.31.1533198779070; Thu, 02 Aug 2018 01:32:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <27BCAEEB-2C52-431A-AFB6-AE0633EFC02C@gmail.com> <59E36BC0-F121-48D6-A06E-B1CAC13F023A@apache.org> <0F69DCE2-CFB9-43A7-B8DB-87E3B2D06384@apache.org> <4A699E4E-04D5-4ED2-BDF4-E2237E9B060A@gmail.com> <6A2741A3-81B9-48DC-95FF-A5D85C543588@gmail.com> <6F5262E4-8F4A-4C2C-B8E7-F49649A8A1B1@gmail.com> <99AD60B4-F2B4-4E56-9DCB-D4F0739AD31F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Anton Vinogradov Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:32:49 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Removing "fabric" from Ignite binary package name To: dev@ignite.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000098bff505726fa8c9" --00000000000098bff505726fa8c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I see is that we spent almost a year discussing how to do this. I'm pretty sure we had enough time to do everything properly. So, proposal is to stop this discussion and start refactoring. I do not see any pitfalls and ready to assist if necessary. =D1=87=D1=82, 2 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 5:14, Dmitriy Setra= kyan : > I vote to remove the fabric from the build in the easiest way possible. C= an > other Igniters comment? > > D. > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Petr Ivanov wrote: > > > My concern here is exactly about internal build processes =E2=80=94 rem= oving > > fabric from the name of binary archive (with any way) will break lots o= f > > them. > > There will be no sacrifices, just lots of work for fixing build process= es > > (where we won=E2=80=99t be able to introduce changes proactively). > > > > Therefore only fabric removal implementation (quick with some legacy le= ft > > or full refactoring) is on the agenda. > > And this matter should be jugged by the community: currently we have (i= f > > our voices are equal) 1:1 with Anton about it. > > > > > > > > > > > On 1 Aug 2018, at 22:28, Dmitriy Setrakyan > > wrote: > > > > > > Let's focus on what is important here. Our users do not care about ou= r > > > internal build process.If we could remove the word fabric from the ne= xt > > > release without any significant sacrifices in the build process or > making > > > it less maintainable, I suggest we do it. > > > > > > D. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Petr Ivanov > > wrote: > > > > > >> Simple way with some hack and legacy maintenance: accept patch as it > is > > >> implemented now. > > >> Hard way: full assembly refactoring and hadoop rejection. > > >> > > >> Anyway, after this is merged to master =E2=80=94 complete automation= systems > > >> revision (TeamCity for example) is required due to heavy hardcode of > > >> =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D in such systems. > > >> > > >> > > >>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 21:55, Dmitriy Setrakyan > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> OK, so what is the plan? How do we get rid of the fabric name? > > >>> > > >>> D. > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:21 AM, Anton Vinogradov > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Since you proposing patch to the community, you are the very man := ) > > >>>> > > >>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 1 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 12:16, Pet= r Ivanov : > > >>>> > > >>>>> You are convincing the wrong person. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 12:05, Anton Vinogradov wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Peter, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We had a discussion about how to do this properly. > > >>>>>> Proposed solution cannot be merged, since it makes code harder > than > > it > > >>>>> was. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The only case is to perform complete refactoring and get rid of > all > > >>>>>> postfixes and other weird stuff. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> For example > > >>>>>> - > > >>>>>> - > > >>>>>> should be definetely removed from code. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 1 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 9:39, Pe= ter Ivanov : > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The task was ready long ago, but community failed to review and > > merge > > >>>> it > > >>>>>>> =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF > > >>>>>>> Not being a committer, my capabilities of introducing such > changes > > >> are > > >>>>>>> limited. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I will update code during this week and will pass for review on= ce > > >>>> again. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 00:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > >> dsetrakyan@apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Yes, agree, fabric has to be removed. If it is done in 2.7, > would > > be > > >>>>>>> great! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Denis Magda > > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Peter, folks, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> It's weird, but we have been failing to introduce this minor > > change > > >>>>>>> since > > >>>>>>>>> December. Can we get it done for 2.7 that is being discussed = at > > the > > >>>>>>>> moment? > > >>>>>>>>> Are there any technical issues that block you from merging th= e > > >>>>> changes? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:03 PM Peter Ivanov < > > mr.weider@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Ok, then I will update issue code and start preparation for > > build > > >>>>>>>>>> configuration changes. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 23:41, Denis Magda > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With which one =E2=80=94 current implementation in issue? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> That's the answer to your question: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by preliminary > > >>>>>>>> preparations =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>> searching for -fabric- usages in build configuration); > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2. update all branches to master because otherwise old > branch > > >>>>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>>>> stop > > >>>>>>>>>>> building. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Petr Ivanov < > > mr.weider@gmail.com > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 23:04, Denis Magda > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with the suggested approach. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With which one =E2=80=94 current implementation in issue? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, not sure we need to update > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all the branches. Can't branch owners just pull the chang= es > > >>>>>>> back > > >>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master if the plan to merge back later? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, we as an initiative group of this issue should = do > > >>>>>>>> nothing, > > >>>>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>>>>> will lie on shoulders of developers. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Petr Ivanov < > > >>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simple approach =E2=80=94 repack and rearchive = binary > > archive > > >>>>>>>>> after > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> release build, however that would not resolve the proble= m > > >>>>>>>> globally > > >>>>>>>>>>> (and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will require fixing every build configuration we have on > > >>>>>>>>> TeamCity). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current approach implemented in task =E2=80=94 creates a= lready > > correct > > >>>>>>>>>> folder > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary archive name, but old name (with -fabric-) is use= d > in > > >>>>>>>>> almost > > >>>>>>>>>>>> every > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build configuration too and merge code to master will > > require > > >>>>>>>> to: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by preliminary > > >>>>>>>>>>> preparations > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 searching for -fabric- usages in build configu= ration); > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. update all branches to master because otherwise old > > >>>>>>> branch > > >>>>>>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop building. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Denis Magda > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pulling up the conversation. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still prefer us not to complicate the things and just > > >>>>>>> remove > > >>>>>>>>>>> "fabric" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the *package name*. Use the easiest way possible. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't care about Hadoop and would not > suggest > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> community > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasting its time on it. So, just rename the > > suffixes/prefixes > > >>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> build > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files the way you like to address Anton's concerns. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Petr Ivanov < > > >>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets define once again what should be done in this [1] > > task? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If current implementation is good, than I=E2=80=99ll u= pdate it > to > > >>>>>>>> master > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for review. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, there is other part of the task which concerns ou= r > > >>>>>>> build > > >>>>>>>>>> server > > >>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that almost all our build configurations will > fail > > >>>>>>> due > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> name > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change and there is no simple way of updating > > configurations > > >>>>>>>>> other > > >>>>>>>>>>>> then > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge task to master and start fixing failing builds. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Feb 2018, at 01:56, Denis Magda < > dmagda@apache.org > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove 'fabric' > > word > > >>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>> every > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the name of > > >>>>>>>>> downloadable > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn=E2=80=99t say it better than you, Val. Thanks = for > pitching > > >>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>> :) > > >>>>>>>>>>> This > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what the ticket is about. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Valentin Kulichenko < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove 'fabric' > > word > > >>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>> every > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the name of > > >>>>>>>>> downloadable > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. Is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there any other place where 'fabric' is exposed to t= he > > >>>>>>> user? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, it should not be a big change, n= o? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Val > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Anton Vinogradov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're proposing changes without viewing a code :) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Denis Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What=E2=80=99s wrong if we just go ahead and: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Ci= gnite=E2=80=9D > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace =E2=80=9Chadoop=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Ci= gnite-hadoop" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Anton Vinogradov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" and "fabric" words work on same engine. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have special assembly desctiptors, for example= : > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric-lgpl.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-hadoop.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-base.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-base.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-lgpl.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-hadoop.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I'ts impossible for now to remove "fabric" > > without > > >>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removal. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only one case is to make some ditry hack, but > that's > > >>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>>> good > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Sergey Kozlov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> skozlov@gridgain.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 hadoop accelerator removing for AI 2.5 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also probably IGFS should be either removed or > > >>>>>>>> refactored, > > >>>>>>>>>>> e.g. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly over the data region without using > "cache" > > >>>>>>>> entity > > >>>>>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>>>>> an > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intermidiate stage > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Denis Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don=E2=80=99t get how the hadoop editions are= related > to > > >>>>>>> this > > >>>>>>>>>> task. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not named as =E2=80=9Cdata fabric=E2=80=9D f= or a while. Check > up > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> site > > >>>>>>>>>>> or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D word is being remo= ved from all over > > the > > >>>>>>>>> places > > >>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be removed from the editions=E2=80=99 names. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the hadoop future, my personal position = is > > to > > >>>>>>>>> retire > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> component > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and forget about it. I would restart the > > conversation > > >>>>>>>>> again > > >>>>>>>>>>>> after > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 2.4. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:13 AM, Anton Vinogradov < > > >>>>>>>>>> av@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, Petr, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked PR and found we have *overcomplicate= d* > > >>>>>>> logic > > >>>>>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fabric" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" postfixs. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we really need to assembly 2 editions? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hadoop" edition still valued? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My proposal is to get rid of "hadoop" edition > and > > >>>>>>>>> replace > > >>>>>>>>>> it > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of how to use "fabric" edition > > instead. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instruction will be pretty easy -> move "hadoo= p" > > >>>>>>>> folder > > >>>>>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "optional" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root directory :) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case we can just remove all postfix > logic > > >>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>> maven > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> poms > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplify release process. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Denis Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks for solving it! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that Anton V. or some other build master > > will > > >>>>>>>>>>>> double-check > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes and merge them. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Petr Ivanov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7251 is done, needs review and some > > >>>>>>>> additional > > >>>>>>>>>>> tests. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #3315 [1]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3315 > > < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3315> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Dec 2017, at 23:15, Denis Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks, such a swift turnaround! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you found the one who can asses and > review > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maintainers label might be helpful. Just pi= ng > > >>>>>>> them > > >>>>>>>>>>>> directly: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute-ReviewProcessandMaintainers < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>> confluence/display/IGNITE/How+ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute-ReviewProcessandMaintainers> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:24 AM, Petr Ivanov = < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assigned myself =E2=80=94 done the same wo= rk while > > >>>>>>>> preparing > > >>>>>>>>>> RPM > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for fixing DEVNOTES.txt waiting for > review > > >>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> merge > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7107 [1]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>> jira/browse/IGNITE-7107 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:55, Denis Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the bids were accepted and the verdic= t > is > > >>>>>>>>>> executed: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251 > > >>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ > > jira/browse/IGNITE-7251> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is ready to pick this up? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 5:35 AM, Anton > > Vinogradov > > >>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1=D0=B1 =D1=84=D0=BE =D1=88=D1=83=D1=80 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Vladimi= r > > >>>>>>>> Ozerov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vozerov@gridgain.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1=D0=B1 =D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B0=D1=88=D1=82= =D1=88=D0=B5=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BD > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:34 AM, Valent= in > > >>>>>>>>>> Kulichenko > > >>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, > Dmitriy > > >>>>>>>>>> Setrakyan > > >>>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsetrakyan@apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (completely agree) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Den= is > > >>>>>>>> Magda < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Ignite binary releases still > > >>>>>>> include > > >>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, this is a full name of > > the > > >>>>>>>>>> previous > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-ignite-fabric-2.3.0-bin. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It=E2=80=99s a little oversight on o= ur side > > >>>>>>> because > > >>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positioned as a fabric for a while. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal! Remove =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2= =80=9D from the > name > > >>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as - apache-ignite-{version}-bin. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we=E2=80=99re in consensus then l= et=E2=80=99s make > > the > > >>>>>>>>> change > > >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey Kozlov > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GridGain Systems > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.gridgain.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > --00000000000098bff505726fa8c9--