From dev-return-37408-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@ignite.apache.org Fri Aug 3 16:28:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id AF1A8180647 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 16:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 39320 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2018 14:28:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ignite.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@ignite.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ignite.apache.org Received: (qmail 39309 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2018 14:28:51 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:28:51 +0000 Received: from mail-it0-f50.google.com (mail-it0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 5A543140D for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e14-v6so8604885itf.1 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2018 07:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHqer0Cf4rRNxK1UoM7UMbGPzZipfUK0a6+6nHY8iqa9jJaCUYd ojO31qv8lA2oZ4JLf1bsGg0vVd2dMEQ8bsPeh6g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfMlA/kc5sIoSdGcN/WYq+4++wkIAPzZ5UrIGx5p1p4Nz+yGMpCDdAv28rN3AsyXJHFW0Sb/V7OhARu1yQzzMQ= X-Received: by 2002:a24:b842:: with SMTP id m63-v6mr6763304ite.31.1533306529341; Fri, 03 Aug 2018 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <27BCAEEB-2C52-431A-AFB6-AE0633EFC02C@gmail.com> <59E36BC0-F121-48D6-A06E-B1CAC13F023A@apache.org> <0F69DCE2-CFB9-43A7-B8DB-87E3B2D06384@apache.org> <4A699E4E-04D5-4ED2-BDF4-E2237E9B060A@gmail.com> <6A2741A3-81B9-48DC-95FF-A5D85C543588@gmail.com> <6F5262E4-8F4A-4C2C-B8E7-F49649A8A1B1@gmail.com> <99AD60B4-F2B4-4E56-9DCB-D4F0739AD31F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Anton Vinogradov Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 17:28:40 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Removing "fabric" from Ignite binary package name To: dev@ignite.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000037758057288bf49" --000000000000037758057288bf49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can perform proper refactoring by myself. Peter, could you assist me with TC in that case? =D0=BF=D1=82, 3 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 17:17, Dmitriy Setr= akyan : > Agree with Denis. Let's do the simple refactoring first, and then more > complicated one in phase 2. > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Denis Magda wrote: > > > > > > > Thus, my suggestion is: > > > =E2=80=94 find and update all hardcoded =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D usa= ge on TC, so that they > work > > > both with or without fabric in name of binaries > > > =E2=80=94 use current implementation =E2=80=94 review and merge to m= aster > > > =E2=80=94 plan full suffix refactoring (as Anton suggests) on the ne= xt > > iterations > > > with no rush > > > > > > I like this plan which allows us to do the things. I see the current > > implementation as one of the steps of the overall refactoring proposed = by > > Anton. It sounds normal if we split refactoring into pieces. > > > > Anton, do you have time to help with the rest of refactoring tasks befo= re > > AI 2.7? It's great if we close the whole tasks by that time. Otherwise, > > let's split it and release the current implementation first. > > > > -- > > Denis > > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:18 AM Petr Ivanov wrote: > > > > > Dmitriy, > > > > > > I cannot forecast estimates for this task as it dependents on many > > factors: > > > =E2=80=94 I will be able to start researching the Anton=E2=80=99s im= plementation > > > suggestion not earlier than the beginning of September > > > =E2=80=94 I am not acquainted with assembly configuration well, it m= ay take > some > > > considerable time to understand how correctly get rid of =E2=80=9Cfab= ric=E2=80=9D not > > > touching everything else > > > =E2=80=94 the process of review and merge can also drag on indefinit= ely (based > > on > > > the previous attempt to introduce this changes) > > > > > > > > > Vladimir, > > > > > > If community will approve this hack, I=E2=80=99ll implement it. > > > Yet it won=E2=80=99t resolve the problem of building from sources not= on TC =E2=80=94 > the > > > fabric will stay in names of binaries and folders inside. > > > And it will add problems when the correct implementation will be > > > introduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, my suggestion is: > > > =E2=80=94 find and update all hardcoded =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D usa= ge on TC, so that they > work > > > both with or without fabric in name of binaries > > > =E2=80=94 use current implementation =E2=80=94 review and merge to m= aster > > > =E2=80=94 plan full suffix refactoring (as Anton suggests) on the ne= xt > > iterations > > > with no rush > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 Aug 2018, at 09:50, Vladimir Ozerov > wrote: > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > Can you please explain the problem with TC and artifacts? Can we ju= st > > > > rename final artifact at the end of a build phase just before > signing, > > > and > > > > leave the rest TC infrastructure as is? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:28 AM Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > dsetrakyan@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Anton, Petr, > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for your readiness to assist. Can this be done for 2.7 > release? > > > >> > > > >> D. > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Anton Vinogradov > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> What I see is that we spent almost a year discussing how to do > this. > > > >>> I'm pretty sure we had enough time to do everything properly. > > > >>> > > > >>> So, proposal is to stop this discussion and start refactoring. > > > >>> > > > >>> I do not see any pitfalls and ready to assist if necessary. > > > >>> > > > >>> =D1=87=D1=82, 2 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 5:14, Dmi= triy Setrakyan < > dsetrakyan@apache.org > > >: > > > >>> > > > >>>> I vote to remove the fabric from the build in the easiest way > > > possible. > > > >>> Can > > > >>>> other Igniters comment? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> D. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Petr Ivanov > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> My concern here is exactly about internal build processes =E2= =80=94 > > removing > > > >>>>> fabric from the name of binary archive (with any way) will brea= k > > lots > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> them. > > > >>>>> There will be no sacrifices, just lots of work for fixing build > > > >>> processes > > > >>>>> (where we won=E2=80=99t be able to introduce changes proactivel= y). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Therefore only fabric removal implementation (quick with some > > legacy > > > >>> left > > > >>>>> or full refactoring) is on the agenda. > > > >>>>> And this matter should be jugged by the community: currently we > > have > > > >>> (if > > > >>>>> our voices are equal) 1:1 with Anton about it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 22:28, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > dsetrakyan@apache.org > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Let's focus on what is important here. Our users do not care > about > > > >>> our > > > >>>>>> internal build process.If we could remove the word fabric from > the > > > >>> next > > > >>>>>> release without any significant sacrifices in the build proces= s > or > > > >>>> making > > > >>>>>> it less maintainable, I suggest we do it. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> D. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Petr Ivanov < > mr.weider@gmail.com > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Simple way with some hack and legacy maintenance: accept patc= h > as > > > >> it > > > >>>> is > > > >>>>>>> implemented now. > > > >>>>>>> Hard way: full assembly refactoring and hadoop rejection. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Anyway, after this is merged to master =E2=80=94 complete aut= omation > > > >> systems > > > >>>>>>> revision (TeamCity for example) is required due to heavy > hardcode > > > >> of > > > >>>>>>> =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D in such systems. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 21:55, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > >> dsetrakyan@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> OK, so what is the plan? How do we get rid of the fabric nam= e? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> D. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:21 AM, Anton Vinogradov < > av@apache.org > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Since you proposing patch to the community, you are the ver= y > > man > > > >>> :) > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 1 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 12:= 16, Petr Ivanov >: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> You are convincing the wrong person. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2018, at 12:05, Anton Vinogradov > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Peter, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> We had a discussion about how to do this properly. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Proposed solution cannot be merged, since it makes code > > harder > > > >>>> than > > > >>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>>> was. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The only case is to perform complete refactoring and get > rid > > > >> of > > > >>>> all > > > >>>>>>>>>>> postfixes and other weird stuff. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> For example > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - > > > >>>>>>>>>>> should be definetely removed from code. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> =D1=81=D1=80, 1 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2018 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 9= :39, Peter Ivanov < > mr.weider@gmail.com > > > >>> : > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The task was ready long ago, but community failed to > review > > > >> and > > > >>>>> merge > > > >>>>>>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Not being a committer, my capabilities of introducing su= ch > > > >>>> changes > > > >>>>>>> are > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> limited. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I will update code during this week and will pass for > review > > > >>> once > > > >>>>>>>>> again. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 at 00:24, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > > >>>>>>> dsetrakyan@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, agree, fabric has to be removed. If it is done in > 2.7, > > > >>>> would > > > >>>>> be > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> great! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Denis Magda < > > > >>> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, folks, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's weird, but we have been failing to introduce this > > > >> minor > > > >>>>> change > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> since > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> December. Can we get it done for 2.7 that is being > > > >> discussed > > > >>> at > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> moment? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there any technical issues that block you from > merging > > > >>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>> changes? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 10:03 PM Peter Ivanov < > > > >>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, then I will update issue code and start preparati= on > > > >> for > > > >>>>> build > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration changes. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 23:41, Denis Magda < > > > >> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With which one =E2=80=94 current implementation in = issue? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the answer to your question: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by > preliminary > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searching for -fabric- usages in build configuration= ); > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. update all branches to master because otherwise o= ld > > > >>>> branch > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> will > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Petr Ivanov < > > > >>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 23:04, Denis Magda < > > > >> dmagda@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with the suggested approach. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With which one =E2=80=94 current implementation in = issue? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, not sure we need to update > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the branches. Can't branch owners just pull th= e > > > >>> changes > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> back > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master if the plan to merge back later? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, we as an initiative group of this issue > > > >> should > > > >>> do > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will lie on shoulders of developers. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Petr Ivanov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most simple approach =E2=80=94 repack and rea= rchive > > binary > > > >>>>> archive > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release build, however that would not resolve the > > > >>> problem > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> globally > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will require fixing every build configuration we > have > > > >> on > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TeamCity). > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current approach implemented in task =E2=80=94 cr= eates > > already > > > >>>>> correct > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary archive name, but old name (with -fabric-) > is > > > >>> used > > > >>>> in > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build configuration too and merge code to master > will > > > >>>>> require > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. quickly fix all of them (can be solved by > > > >> preliminary > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 searching for -fabric- usages in build > > > >> configuration); > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. update all branches to master because otherwis= e > > old > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> branch > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop building. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Denis Magda < > > > >>> dmagda@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pulling up the conversation. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still prefer us not to complicate the things a= nd > > > >> just > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> remove > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fabric" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the *package name*. Use the easiest way > > > >> possible. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't care about Hadoop and would > not > > > >>>> suggest > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasting its time on it. So, just rename the > > > >>>>> suffixes/prefixes > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files the way you like to address Anton's > concerns. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Petr Ivanov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets define once again what should be done in > this > > > >> [1] > > > >>>>> task? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If current implementation is good, than I=E2=80= =99ll > update > > > >> it > > > >>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> master > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for review. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, there is other part of the task which > concerns > > > >>> our > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> build > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 I > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume that almost all our build configurations > > will > > > >>>> fail > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> due > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change and there is no simple way of updating > > > >>>>> configurations > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> other > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge task to master and start fixing failing > > > >> builds. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Feb 2018, at 01:56, Denis Magda < > > > >>>> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove > > > >> 'fabric' > > > >>>>> word > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the na= me > > of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloadable > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn=E2=80=99t say it better than you, Val. = Thanks for > > > >>>> pitching > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly what the ticket is about. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Valentin > Kulichenko > > < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we necessarily need to remove > > > >> 'fabric' > > > >>>>> word > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the project, we just need to rename the na= me > > of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloadable > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. Is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there any other place where 'fabric' is expos= ed > > to > > > >>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> user? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, it should not be a big > > change, > > > >>> no? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Val > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Anton > Vinogradov > > < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're proposing changes without viewing a > code > > > >> :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Denis Magda= < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What=E2=80=99s wrong if we just go ahead an= d: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D with =E2= =80=9Cignite=E2=80=9D > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - replace =E2=80=9Chadoop=E2=80=9D with =E2= =80=9Cignite-hadoop" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Anton > Vinogradov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" and "fabric" words work on same > > > >> engine. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have special assembly desctiptors, for > > > >>> example: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-fabric-lgpl.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies-hadoop.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-base.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-base.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-fabric-lgpl.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release-hadoop.xml > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I'ts impossible for now to remove > "fabric" > > > >>>>> without > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removal. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only one case is to make some ditry hack, > but > > > >>>> that's > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Sergey > Kozlov > > > >> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skozlov@gridgain.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 hadoop accelerator removing for AI 2.5 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also probably IGFS should be either remov= ed > > or > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> refactored, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FS > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly over the data region without usi= ng > > > >>>> "cache" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> entity > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intermidiate stage > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:13 AM, Denis > Magda < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anton, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don=E2=80=99t get how the hadoop editi= ons are > > > >> related > > > >>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> task. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not named as =E2=80=9Cdata fabric=E2= =80=9D for a while. > > > >>> Check > > > >>>> up > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D word is bei= ng removed from > all > > > >>> over > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> places > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be removed from the editions=E2=80=99 na= mes. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the hadoop future, my personal > > > >> position > > > >>> is > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> retire > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> component > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and forget about it. I would restart the > > > >>>>> conversation > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 2.4. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:13 AM, Anton > > > >> Vinogradov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> av@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis, Petr, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked PR and found we have > > > >>> *overcomplicated* > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> logic > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "fabric" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hadoop" postfixs. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we really need to assembly 2 edition= s? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hadoop" edition still valued? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My proposal is to get rid of "hadoop" > > > >> edition > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction of how to use "fabric" > edition > > > >>>>> instead. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instruction will be pretty easy -> move > > > >>> "hadoop" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> folder > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "optional" > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root directory :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that case we can just remove all > postfix > > > >>>> logic > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maven > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poms > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplify release process. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Denis > > > >> Magda < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks for solving it! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that Anton V. or some other build > > > >> master > > > >>>>> will > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double-check > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes and merge them. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Petr > > Ivanov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7251 is done, needs review and > > some > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additional > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tests. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PR > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #3315 [1]. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > >>>> https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/3315 > > > >>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ > > ignite/pull/3315 > > > >>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Dec 2017, at 23:15, Denis Magd= a > < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petr, thanks, such a swift turnaroun= d! > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you found the one who can asses > > and > > > >>>> review > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maintainers label might be helpful. > > Just > > > >>> ping > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> them > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/How+ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute- > > ReviewProcessandMaintainers > > > >> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> confluence/display/IGNITE/How+ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to+Contribute#HowtoContribute- > > ReviewProcessandMaintainers> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:24 AM, Petr > > > >> Ivanov > > > >>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mr.weider@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assigned myself =E2=80=94 done the = same work > > > >> while > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> preparing > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RPM > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for fixing DEVNOTES.txt waiting > > for > > > >>>> review > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGNITE-7107 [1]. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jira/browse/IGNITE-7107 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2017, at 22:55, Denis > > Magda < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the bids were accepted and the > > > >>> verdict > > > >>>> is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> executed: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-7251 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ > > > >>>>> jira/browse/IGNITE-7251> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is ready to pick this up? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 5:35 AM, Anto= n > > > >>>>> Vinogradov > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avinogradov@gridgain.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1=D0=B1 =D1=84=D0=BE =D1=88=D1= =83=D1=80 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:59 AM, > > > >>> Vladimir > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ozerov < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vozerov@gridgain.com> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1=D0=B1 =D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B0=D1= =88=D1=82=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BD > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:34 AM, > > > >>> Valentin > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kulichenko > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:24 P= M, > > > >>>> Dmitriy > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Setrakyan > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dsetrakyan@apache.org > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (completely agree) > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:21 > AM, > > > >>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Magda < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dmagda@apache.org> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igniters, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Ignite binary releases > > > >> still > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> include > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=9Cfabric=E2=80=9D > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ignite.apache.org/ > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cgi#binaries > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, this is a full > > name > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-ignite-fabric-2.3.0-bi= n. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It=E2=80=99s a little oversig= ht on our > > > >> side > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> because > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positioned as a fabric for a > > > >> while. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposal! Remove =E2=80=9Cfab= ric=E2=80=9D from > > the > > > >>>> name > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binary > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as - > > apache-ignite-{version}-bin. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we=E2=80=99re in consensus= then > let=E2=80=99s > > > >>> make > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =E2=80=94 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergey Kozlov > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GridGain Systems > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.gridgain.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --000000000000037758057288bf49--