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From Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Bots on dev list
Date Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:43:23 GMT
Hi everyone,

I think email from the bot is something exceptional. In this case author
and committer already ignored test failures. So dev list is the last hope
that someone can come and fix the failure.

Other emails come from human actions, so I'm happy that so many actions
occur in the community. I never name it pollution.

Other Apache projects forward every comment in every PR to dev lists. So
Ignite notifications are rare.


Sincerely
Dmitriy Pavlov

чт, 30 авг. 2018 г., 13:06 Dmitrii Ryabov <somefireone@gmail.com>:

> > 2. MTCGA messages should mention the commiter and authors of the "bad"
> commit.
> But this is not always possible.
>
> 2018-08-30 13:04 GMT+03:00 Dmitrii Ryabov <somefireone@gmail.com>:
>
> > Vladimir, your idea is good, but...
> > 1. Who should be mentioned in messages like PR or JIRA ticket creation?
> As
> > I see, only these messages clutter up the nabble.
> > 2. MTCGA messages should mention the commiter and authors of the "bad"
> > commit.
> > 2. Comments and changes in PR, tickets, and reviews already are sent to
> > the users, who subscribed to them.
> >
> > 2018-08-30 12:19 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <vozerov@gridgain.com>:
> >
> >> This is somewhat controversial question. Some people has filters, some
> >> doesn't. And it s true that at the moment it is hard to find pieces of
> >> human communication in tons of automated e-mails (JIRA, GitHub, TC bot).
> >> If to put JIRA and GitHub aside (let's do not mix things), personally
> >> content of TC bot looks not very good. I doubt that contributors known
> how
> >> to react to it. If we want contributors to take actions on specific
> >> problem, we should send emails directly to them, not to everyone.
> >>
> >> For me good solution looks as follows:
> >> 1) Create separate channel for bot messages
> >> 2) "To" field should contain this channel and e-mails of specific people
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:41 AM Denis Mekhanikov <
> dmekhanikov@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I guess, nobody uses it because it's flooded by bots.
> >> > It may be useful to lookup old threads for people, who are not
> >> subscribed
> >> > to the mailing list from the beginning of time.
> >> >
> >> > Denis
> >> >
> >> > чт, 30 авг. 2018 г. в 3:39, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org
> >:
> >> >
> >> > > Is anyone in the community using or was using Nabble for the dev
> list
> >> > > communication? Personally, I am subscribed to the dev list and use
> >> > filters
> >> > > in my email client.
> >> > >
> >> > > D.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:40 AM, Denis Mekhanikov <
> >> dmekhanikov@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Guys,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yep, I use filters on my mail account. But the portal is
> impossible
> >> to
> >> > > use.
> >> > > > When you subscribe to the dev list for the first time, you don't
> >> have
> >> > any
> >> > > > history on your email,
> >> > > > and the archive is polluted with messages, sent by bots.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Some view on Nabble, that doesn't contain any automatically
> >> generated
> >> > > > messages, would help here.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Denis
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ср, 29 авг. 2018 г. в 12:26, Dmitrii Ryabov <
> somefireone@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >  Modern mail services allow users to filter messages. You
can
> >> easily
> >> > > > filter
> >> > > > > out bot messages.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 2018-08-29 11:48 GMT+03:00 Denis Mekhanikov <
> >> dmekhanikov@gmail.com>:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Igniters,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We have a lot of threads, created by bots on the dev
list.
> >> > > > > > Currently messages are sent by JIRA, GitHub and MTCGA
bots.
> >> Maybe,
> >> > > some
> >> > > > > > others too, but these are the most active.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Take a look at this page:
> >> > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.
> >> > > > > > com/Apache-Ignite-Developers-f1i35.html
> >> > > > > > It's hard to find actual discussions in this mess.
I'd like to
> >> see
> >> > > > > > something like what we have on the users list:
> >> > > > > > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > It doesn't seem necessary to me to mix discussions
with this
> >> > cryptic
> >> > > > flow
> >> > > > > > of information.
> >> > > > > > Can we create a separate mailing list for bots?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Denis
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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