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From Stuart Macdonald <stu...@stuwee.org>
Subject Re: Spark DataFrames With Cache Key and Value Objects
Date Fri, 27 Jul 2018 19:39:30 GMT
If your predicates and joins are expressed in Spark SQL, you cannot
currently optimise those and also gain access to the key/val objects. If
you went without the Ignite Spark SQL optimisations and expressed your
query in Ignite SQL, you still need to use the _key/_val columns. The
Ignite documentation has this specific example using the _val column (right
at the end): https://apacheignite-fs.readme.io/docs/ignitecontext-igniterdd


On 27 Jul 2018, at 20:05, Valentin Kulichenko <valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com>

Well, the second approach would use the optimizations, no?


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:49 AM Stuart Macdonald <stuwee@stuwee.org> wrote:


Yes you can already get access to the cache objects as an RDD or

Dataset but you can’t use the Ignite-optimised DataFrames with these

mechanisms. Optimised DataFrames have to be passed through Spark SQL’s

Catalyst engine to allow for predicate pushdown to Ignite. So the

usecase we’re talking about here is when we want to be able to push

Spark filters/joins to Ignite to optimise, but still have access to

the underlying cache objects, which is not possible currently.

Can you elaborate on the reason _key and _val columns in Ignite SQL

will be removed?


On 27 Jul 2018, at 19:39, Valentin Kulichenko <

valentin.kulichenko@gmail.com> wrote:

Stuart, Nikolay,

I really don't like the idea of exposing '_key' and '_val' fields. This


legacy stuff that hopefully will be removed altogether one day. Let's not

use it in new features.

Actually, I don't even think it's even needed. Spark docs [1] suggest two

ways of creating a typed dataset:

1. Based on RDD. This should be supported using IgniteRDD I believe.

2. Based on DataFrame providing a class. This would just work out of the

box I guess.

Of course, this needs to be tested and verified, and there might be


pieces missing to fully support the use case. But generally I like these

approaches much more.



On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:31 AM Stuart Macdonald <stuwee@stuwee.org>


Here’s the ticket:



On Friday, 27 July 2018 at 14:19, Nikolay Izhikov wrote:


Please, send ticket number in this thread.

пт, 27 июля 2018 г., 16:16 Stuart Macdonald <stuwee@stuwee.org



Thanks Nikolay. For both options if the cache object isn’t a simple


we’d probably do something like this in our Ignite SQL statement:

select cast(_key as binary), cast(_val as binary), ...

Which would give us the BinaryObject’s byte[], then for option 1 we


the Ignite format and introduce a new Spark Encoder for Ignite binary





so that the end user interface would be something like:

IgniteSparkSession session = ...

Dataset<Row> dataFrame = ...

Dataset<MyValClass> valDataSet =


Or for option 2 we have a behind-the-scenes Ignite-to-Kryo UDF so that


user interface would be standard Spark:

Dataset<Row> dataFrame = ...

DataSet<MyValClass> dataSet =


I’ll create a ticket and maybe put together a test case for further



On 27 Jul 2018, at 09:50, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhikov@apache.org

(mailto:nizhikov@apache.org <nizhikov@apache.org>)> wrote:

Hello, Stuart.

I like your idea.

1. Ignite BinaryObjects, in which case we’d need to supply a Spark


implementation for BinaryObjects

2. Kryo-serialised versions of the objects.

Seems like first option is simple adapter. Am I right?

If yes, I think it's a more efficient way comparing with

transformation of

each object to some other(Kryo) format.

Can you provide some additional links for both options?

Where I can find API or(and) examples?

As a second step, we can apply same approach to the regular key, value


Feel free to create a ticket.

В Пт, 27/07/2018 в 09:37 +0100, Stuart Macdonald пишет:

Ignite Dev Community,

Within Ignite-supplied Spark DataFrames, I’d like to propose adding


for _key and _val columns which represent the cache key and value


similar to the current _key/_val column semantics in Ignite SQL.

If the cache key or value objects are standard SQL types (eg. String,


etc) they will be represented as such in the DataFrame schema,


they are represented as Binary types encoded as either: 1. Ignite

BinaryObjects, in which case we’d need to supply a Spark Encoder

implementation for BinaryObjects, or 2. Kryo-serialised versions of


objects. Option 1 would probably be more efficient but option 2 would


more idiomatic Spark.

This feature would be controlled with an optional parameter in the


data source, defaulting to the current implementation which doesn’t


_key or _val columns. The rationale behind this is the same as the


SQL _key and _val columns: to allow access to the full cache objects

from a

SQL context.

Can I ask for feedback on this proposal please?

I’d be happy to contribute this feature if we agree on the concept.


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