Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-ignite-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-ignite-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD3A18BA9 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98158 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jul 2015 07:40:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ignite-dev-archive@ignite.apache.org Received: (qmail 98119 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jul 2015 07:40:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@ignite.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@ignite.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@ignite.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98108 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jul 2015 07:40:30 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8B01BD7DF0 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.309 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.309 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.289] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ggSypUDW-mY9 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with SMTP id B1BC84C0ED for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98089 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jul 2015 07:40:28 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:28 +0000 Received: from zulu.23.e-reka.si (cpe-46-164-5-176.dynamic.amis.net [46.164.5.176]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id F03D31A0339 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55B5E066.3080003@apache.org> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:40:22 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?QnJhbmtvIMSMaWJlag==?= Organization: The Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@ignite.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Jira Process References: <55B5C415.8050905@apache.org> <55B5CC14.3000809@apache.org> <641CAD13-7203-4430-8088-01AA4789DDAF@apache.org> <55B5D677.3060800@apache.org> <55B5DE2B.5040300@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAADBQTFRF IhsbCy0qZjoVOVRoeFxSAIKBzXQiAKaibYiewnk7nn9z0qCTgL3i87Ep6Kx/+tHBsrE+zgAAAjZJ REFUOMvF0jFoE1EYB/CzjWlqIzaTjqVIBifRRWyG0t5iUqlLyFpCeXBgKg5yq6A4degUDJjoUDpc 1Qt4Ux94B11SOLB0KGS4discpbkORTCn9/m9d3fvLhXnvuHu3f+Xx/veyyfZfLSdZHzgicSfeyw4 JISwdz8FT6M8lM8Ceg385Dlhs+cC9sQCDn0B78QCogzwN+sxfHGOIXBbRGkNAM4cZymGtgNsDPgz cByxon3EEm1TLmvAlghoHOO3CZSa+IQ/vF6JV8tgKOMow78gRgL2/+EIvATOUtB3SSdMg4GXgrbn uk0uLiGdoCHKbX4E+t1FUTqn1AtIdPJebssDQ64YANSQyyaQNyUOFs0ijMsMFnOPTahPLXKYowtY 08MfCP7vR7hRnc5zmPK7CDYYbHcbC7tHuyFA94U/1LYZaJpu/sxACHMwvwZljTLY0TbNk4x+zuEt yC3MfCM6uSIvfwur0itFL4FA2Yal8BzLfnYV4EIGwEPAk7o5zIcnvzHMEjwJrrhAKK7on6IrsfRJ 7A53BhaK+CL7fj6+q/sPeOvcDTtoZTxpUYsFeIknrOXep3p3l7Ua+8sZ5FPQKyKwWi+DfROTU7ny C1/9UhpeY7K287WJCzbsNPQm2S6Yk4PSCNhWM2r3nD0K9liYb6yPgCRJhSzPrxUK0yUBVk1VX0lj s7MzGZyp0wImMK/e8rHbz2soL+O+2r1dxfGsAmBcx0lNjS/RUhlUC7gRn1wGMdQ7Vw1/AReW/RN3 xFWdAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 27.07.2015 09:36, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: >> We've all seen problems with bad commits. Bugs happen. If it's >> accidental, live with it. If it's consistent from some person, teach >> said person to do better. There's no reason to go all paranoid over a >> potential occasional bug in a commit. >> >> I mean, it's ridiculous to go all agile with sprints and scrums and CI >> and whatnot, and then block progress because you're afraid to trust your >> fellow developers to not goof off all the time. >> > Just as an observation, I don't think RTC process was slowing down progress > at Ignite as reviews usually happen pretty fast. They do now, when the project is fresh and the majority of active committers are actually not doing this in their spare time. You need to think ahead a bit, too. -- Brane