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From Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrak...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Web config download
Date Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:05:31 GMT
How about the rest of the stack?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Alexey Kuznetsov <akuznetsov@gridgain.com>
wrote:

> If we switch for jetty - we do NOT need node.js.
> If we switch to H2 - we do NOT need MongoDB.
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <dsetrakyan@apache.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > We are still going to need node.js, right?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Alexey Kuznetsov <
> akuznetsov@gridgain.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just my thoughts.
> > >
> > > We could implement some abstraction layer for backend persistence.
> > > And in case of user download we will package with H2 as default
> storage.
> > >
> > > But in case of heavy load any other db could be used, but will require
> > > manual installation and configuration.
> > >
> > > We are expecting million requests per second?
> > > I think H2 will be enough? What do you think?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> > dsetrakyan@apache.org
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > And what do you suggest we use as persistence on the backend?
> Currently
> > > we
> > > > use Mongo.
> > > >
> > > > D.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Sergi Vladykin <
> > > sergi.vladykin@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And there is nothing to do from scratch here, all the html and
> client
> > > > side
> > > > > js are the same, just switch backend.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sergi
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-06-30 8:17 GMT-07:00 Sergi Vladykin <sergi.vladykin@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think at current stage if it takes two days to switch things,
> > then
> > > it
> > > > > > makes sense. We will not be able to do it later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will need to have a separate distribution for each supported
> > > > platform.
> > > > > > And test each individually.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sergi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2015-06-30 8:05 GMT-07:00 Dmitriy Setrakyan <
> dsetrakyan@apache.org
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I would like to avoid "let's drop everything and redo from
> > scratch"
> > > > > >> discussions. I don't think they will productively get us
there.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The stack was chosen because it required zero code or
> integration
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > >> server side and was easiest to implement. Let's try to answer
> how
> > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > >> it downloadable in the easiest way.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> D.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Sergi Vladykin <
> > > > > sergi.vladykin@gmail.com
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Guys,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > To be honest I don't know why we choose this stack
which is
> > > > completely
> > > > > >> > alien to java when our main product is java based.
I'm sure in
> > the
> > > > > >> future
> > > > > >> > we will need better level of integration between them
not only
> > for
> > > > > >> Ignite
> > > > > >> > SQL schema import.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Jetty it is a battle tested server, I think we can
go ahead
> with
> > > it.
> > > > > >> > Moreover if we will not be satisfied we can replace
it with
> > > > something
> > > > > >> else
> > > > > >> > easily, while I don't know how we will replace node.js
in a
> > case.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > As for JSON Alexey, please describe what kind of operations
we
> > do
> > > > with
> > > > > >> JSON
> > > > > >> > data and why we can't store it just as a String and
be as DB
> > > neutral
> > > > > as
> > > > > >> > possible?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Sergi
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > 2015-06-30 7:31 GMT-07:00 Alexey Kuznetsov <
> > > akuznetsov@gridgain.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Sergey,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 1. How many connections Jetty + H2 could handle?
> > > > > >> > > Do you have any experience?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 2. What is the best way to store JSON into db
and later read
> > > JSON
> > > > > from
> > > > > >> > db?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 3. Persistence feature could not be separated,
because
> > > > > >> CacheTypeMetadata
> > > > > >> > is
> > > > > >> > > a part of CacheConfiguration.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Dmitriy,
> > > > > >> > >  What do you think about dropping nodejs and mongoDB
in
> favor
> > of
> > > > > >> > jetty+h2 ?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > One more benefit of using java that we could reuse
code from
> > > > Ignite
> > > > > >> > Schema
> > > > > >> > > Import
> > > > > >> > >  for connecting to database (using JDBC) and reuse
code that
> > > > > generates
> > > > > >> > XML
> > > > > >> > > and POJO classes.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Also we could build and package Web Config with
Maven I
> think.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Actually we do not have much code at server side.
So we
> could
> > > > switch
> > > > > >> in a
> > > > > >> > > couple of days I think.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Thoughts?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Sergey Evdokimov
<
> > > > > >> > sevdokimov@gridgain.com
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > I doubt that people will install docker to
run WebConfig.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > If we expect running WebConfig on user machine
node.js +
> > > mongoDB
> > > > > is
> > > > > >> a
> > > > > >> > bad
> > > > > >> > > > choose. Most of our users are java developers,
the plain
> way
> > > is
> > > > to
> > > > > >> use
> > > > > >> > > > Jetty + H2 and pack whole WebConfig to single
jar. User
> will
> > > be
> > > > > >> start
> > > > > >> > it
> > > > > >> > > > using "java -jar webConfig.jar" without unnecessary
> actions.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > As I understand, only Persistence feature
requires
> > > installation
> > > > > >> > WebConfig
> > > > > >> > > > on local machine, my be you should create
separated
> project
> > > > > >> > > > PersistenceGenerator that will use Jetty+H2
and will be
> > packed
> > > > to
> > > > > >> > single
> > > > > >> > > > jar.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Alexey Kuznetsov
<
> > > > > >> > > akuznetsov@gridgain.com
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > What about docker image?
> > > > > >> > > > > We will create docker image with installed
nodejs, mongo
> > and
> > > > > >> Ignite
> > > > > >> > Web
> > > > > >> > > > > Config.
> > > > > >> > > > > Will this solve this problem?
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Dmitriy
Setrakyan <
> > > > > >> > > > dsetrakyan@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > From my standpoint, I would like
the
> web-config-download
> > > to
> > > > > come
> > > > > >> > as a
> > > > > >> > > > zip
> > > > > >> > > > > > file without any extra installation
steps if possible.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > Ideally, a user should be able
to just download it,
> > unzip
> > > > it,
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > > start
> > > > > >> > > > > > using it.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > D.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:33 AM,
Alexey Kuznetsov <
> > > > > >> > > > > > akuznetsov@gridgain.com>
> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Igniters,
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > We are working on Ignite Web
Config (ignite-843) and
> > > very
> > > > > >> close
> > > > > >> > to
> > > > > >> > > > > first
> > > > > >> > > > > > > version of it.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > As usual everything could
be launched from sources,
> > but
> > > > for
> > > > > >> > > usability
> > > > > >> > > > > > issue
> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'm thinking
> > > > > >> > > > > > > about a kind of installer
for web config.
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > In web config we are using:
nodejs, mongodb,
> angular.
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Does any one has experience
of packaging web
> > > applications
> > > > > for
> > > > > >> > later
> > > > > >> > > > > > > deployment?
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Any ideas are very appreciated.
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > --
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > > > > >> > > > > > > GridGain Systems
> > > > > >> > > > > > > www.gridgain.com
> > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > --
> > > > > >> > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > > > > >> > > > > GridGain Systems
> > > > > >> > > > > www.gridgain.com
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > >> > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > > > > >> > > GridGain Systems
> > > > > >> > > www.gridgain.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > > GridGain Systems
> > > www.gridgain.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexey Kuznetsov
> GridGain Systems
> www.gridgain.com
>

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