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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Ignite Streaming Redesign
Date Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:09:59 GMT
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 01:27AM, Branko Čibej wrote:
> On 14.01.2015 22:25, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:58PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 03:46AM, Branko Čibej wrote:
> >>>> On 12.01.2015 21:16, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <cos@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 07:51PM, Branko Čibej wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 12.01.2015 18:49, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:38PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Konstantin Boudnik
<
> >>> cos@apache.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The documentation is based on Atlassian Confluence
Wiki. What would
> >>>>>> be the
> >>>>>>>>> best way to migrate it? My strong preference would
be to keep it on
> >>>>>>>>> Altassian Confluence.
> >>>>>>>> Apache wiki is based on Confluence, so it shouldn't
be an issue.
> >>>>>>> Apparently there are two wikis then ... the one Incubator
and a
> >>> bunch of
> >>>>>>> other projects uses is moinmoin, not Confluence.
> >>>>>> Argh... you're right!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Can we continue hosting it on GridGain then? Something like "
> >>>>> ignite.gridbgain.org"? We really cannot afford moving our
> >>> documentation to
> >>>>> any other tool right now.
> >>>> Eventually, it would be really nice to have docs on ASF infrastructure.
> >>>> There's no rush; any time before graduation is fine. :) In the meantime,
> >>>> clearly noting on the site that the doc links are external is good
> >>> enough.
> >>>> Once you're ready to start migrating, I suggest you take a look at
> >>>>
> >>>>     http://moinmo.in/ConfluenceConverter
> >>>>
> >>>> (which points to http://hgweb.boddie.org.uk/ConfluenceConverter). Looks
> >>>> like it's fairly well maintained, so definitely worth a try.
> >>> I see an issue here - which might need to be discussed on incubator@.
> >>> Here's
> >>> the problem as I see it:
> >>>  - a project - Ignite (incubating) in question - has its documentation in
> >>>    Confluence
> >>>  - while in incubation the project needs to use a different kind of Wiki
-
> >>>    MoinMoin - hence will have to undergo the conversion from one to another
> >>>  - TLPs are using Confluence wiki, so one the project in question has
> >>>    graduated - the conversion needs to happen again, but this time in the
> >>>    opposite direction.
> >>>
> >> This process seems a bit redundant to me. I think ideally we should be able
> >> to keep the docs in GridGain confluence and migrate to Apache at the time
> >> of graduation. Will this work?
> > One of the criteria of the graduation is that all bits of the project are
> > hosted on the ASF infra (as Brane alluded earlier). And there are good reasons
> > for that. Thus it would be a sort of catch-22 wrt external documentation.
> >
> > However, doing the conversion back and forth seems to be excessive and
> > annoying. So, let's figure out if the docs could be just migrated to
> > Confluence right away.
> >
> > Roman, with your IPMC chair hat on - could you comment if this is possible
> > atm? If not - can we work with INFRA to let incubator projects host their
> > content on ASF Confluence? May be it is the case right now, but I am simply
> > unaware about it.
> 
> I've never heard of a Confluence instance at the ASF, but that's beside
> the point. If there is such an instance, there definitely is no rule
> forbidding incubating projects from using it.

Here it is
    https://cwiki.apache.org/

Ah, great. Then my premise was wrong. Perhaps Ignite (incubating) should just
try to create the space at the instance above. If you need permissions -
please open a ticket with INFRA.

Cos

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