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From Clinton Begin <clinton.be...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: SqlSession.close() without committing
Date Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:14:26 GMT
I agree, EJB 3 looks very good.  But my point was that the first two
iterations of the spec didn't help.  And if anything, the non-spec driven
Spring framework drove EJB 3 to be what it is today.

Clinton

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Guy Rouillier <guyr-ml1@burntmail.com>wrote:

> On 4/7/2010 9:50 AM, Clinton Begin wrote:
>
>>
>> This is what has killed J2EE vs. the alternatives.  Look at the history:
>>
>
> Not to start a flame war, but ...
>
>
>
>> * CMP - Spec.  Dead, along with all implementations.
>>
>> * EJB - Spec.  Dead.  Spring killed it -- not a spec.
>>
>
> EJB3 is very much alive.  The spec people learned from experience; EJB3
> uses straight POJOs.  Spring tries to be all things, and doesn't really do
> any of them exceptionally well.  I don't use it because of its massive
> footprint.  Sure, you can use subcomponents in isolation, if you can figure
> out how to decompose it.  But I prefer targeted tools that do one thing very
> well.  Hence, my attraction to iBATIS.
>
>
>
>> * JDO - Spec.  Dead, along with all implementations.
>>
>> * JSF - DOA.  Bad idea to begin with, and has failed to unify client
>> side Java.  Struts, GWT, Wickett, Stripes, ZK, Tapestry, etc.  all still
>> exist -- and are more popular than JSF -- all without a spec.
>>
>
> JSF use is increasing, not decreasing.  My company has committed to it for
> several major projects in the last 6 months alone.  We've also used GWT for
> other projects.  JSF is more of a server-based technology than a client
> technology, and different applications may need one approach or the other.
>  I'm sure each of the tools you list has pluses and minuses; I haven't used
> them all.  Struts I think has seen its day, and usage is declining in favor
> of newer approaches.
>
> --
> Guy Rouillier
>
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> Guy Rouillier
>
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