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From Fred Janon <fja...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: iBATIS 3 for Java Released (BETA 1)
Date Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:46:26 GMT
I am, I am! I do think it is good. I am learning a lot and find some really
good stuff in it!

Fred

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 23:16, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> It's not like there's NO documentation, there's better documentation than
> JavaDocs.  The user guide is far more readable and logically structured and
> searchable.   If you read it, you'll see that JavaDocs wouldn't offer much
> more...
>
> I had time to write it, so you have time to read it. :-)
>
> Clinton
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Fred Janon <fjanon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't like Javadocs either (except Sun's, uh Oracle's), but no one has
>> come up with something better (apart from literate programming), because
>> anyway docs == more work (lots of it) and docs == no fun and docs.writer !=
>> programmer. Unfortunately, code without doc means very few people use it and
>> most of the time I am one of them, I already don't have enough time to do my
>> work to pay the bills... I wish I had time to have fun looking at all the
>> code the Open Source Gods gave us :)
>>
>> I'll try, I am starting a project and I wouldn't mind dropping H and use
>> iBatis again.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:42, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> There's no JavaDocs.  This is my own personal hangup.  I despise
>>> Javadocs. :-)  I've never liked them in code, or reading them online... the
>>> only good ones are those written by Sun for the JDK IMHO...  The thing about
>>> iBATIS is that the actual Java code is very simple to understand -- you only
>>> use about 5 classes and they're very simple.  The important part to
>>> understand about ibatis is the SQL mapping and XML.
>>>
>>> That said, a couple of our devs do like JavaDocs and will probably add
>>> them when they find some time.
>>>
>>> I would like to get an updated JPetStore example, but I'm out of time
>>> right now.  Perhaps before the first GA release.  Or... someone from the
>>> community can do it.
>>>
>>> Clinton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Fred Janon <fjanon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there several "docs"? I can see only the "User' Guide" on the main
>>>> page. No javadoc? I presume the javadoc link on the main page of the web
>>>> site is still the one for the previous version?
>>>> Is there any full example, like a java example? I didn't find any in the
>>>> download (jar or src).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 04:33, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The docs are long, but you can skim them for the new features.  That
>>>>> said, most of our goals were not new features, but improving the
>>>>> quality and effectiveness of the features that make ibatis what it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinton
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2009-08-08, Chema <demablogia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Congratulations
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Where can we look for the main new features ? I mean, a short list
>>>>> with the
>>>>> > news
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2009/8/8 Nathan Maves <nathan.maves@gmail.com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> A month ago iBATIS turned 7 years old, and while we're celebrating
a
>>>>> >> little late, today we're happy to announce iBATIS 3 for Java.
iBATIS
>>>>> 3
>>>>> >> is a complete rewrite from the ground up and thus represents
the
>>>>> >> biggest change since the very first version of iBATIS released
in
>>>>> >> 2002. There are a lot of modern features that take advantage
of Java
>>>>> >> 5. iBATIS 3 includes simplified design and some great new tools
for
>>>>> >> helping you build great database driven applications. iBATIS
3
>>>>> carries
>>>>> >> forward all of the principles that have made iBATIS popular.
There
>>>>> are
>>>>> >> still no required 3rd party dependencies, it's simpler than
ever,
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> yet far more powerful! More information will come in the next
few
>>>>> days
>>>>> >> to help you get started.
>>>>> >> Introducing the iBATIS Schema Migration System
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Along with iBATIS 3, we're happy to introduce the iBATIS Schema
>>>>> >> Migration System (or iBATIS Migrations for short). This powerful
>>>>> tool
>>>>> >> was inspired by Rails Migrations and similar tools like dbdeploy
to
>>>>> >> enable good database change management practices, help teams
to work
>>>>> >> concurrently without stepping all over each other and avoid
having
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> centralize database changes. Once you work this way, you'll
find it
>>>>> >> very hard to work any other way again. Developers and DBAs will
>>>>> >> appreciate it equally.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You can find the new artifacts including the new jar files and
>>>>> manuals
>>>>> >> at the URL below.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://ibatis.apache.org/java.cgi
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> We will send out an email as soon as we get the artifacts out
on the
>>>>> >> Maven repositories.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> iBatis Team
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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