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From Pieter Baele <pieter.ba...@telenet.be>
Subject Re: iBATIS for swing application
Date Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:51:31 GMT
I did want to use Spring for its power and nice features, but there is  
not enough time.
It's just 6 to 8 iterations of one week... and now we are in our third  
So it's too much overhead for this 'college' project.

I've planned to start using Spring on my own - altogether with  
iBATIS ;-)

Yours faithfully,
Pieter Baele

On 04 Mar 2008, at 03:09, Jason Kratz wrote:

> I’d have to agree. I’m not sure how using Spring DAO would be any  
> more overkill than iBATIS itself.  It actually isn’t adding that  
> much over the top.  Far as time goes getting your application to use  
> Spring is minimal.  It just isn’t that hard.    Maybe you don’t have  
> a need for any of the other services but if you do then you should  
> use it.  You get a lot of power there.
> Jason
> From: Ryan Shelley [mailto:12gaugemedia@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:56 PM
> To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org
> Subject: Re: iBATIS for swing application
> This is outside the scope of the iBATIS discussion, but why wouldn't  
> you consider using Spring for your application?  I've written  
> several non-web-based apps using Spring and can say it simplified  
> the development and configuration of the app, plus, it gives you  
> intrinsic access to a ton of resources, such as iBATIS, out-of-the- 
> box.  Unless you've already started heavy development without  
> Spring, it wouldn't be a terrible effort to add it.
> -Ryan
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:09 AM, pieter.baele@pandora.be <pieter.baele@telenet.be

> > wrote:
> Hello,
> I am a student (college university) working on a part of a fictive  
> project management software system.
> We received a database dll scheme, so Hibernate was not really an  
> option. It's also a very short project (8 weeks) so iBATIS is  
> definitely a better solution.
> (shorter learning curve)
> I've bought iBATIS in action and generated Java Beans and sqlmaps  
> with abator.
> But now I am stuck. I need some sort of Factory/Facade/Controller  
> for the sqlMaps, but how to code these?
> It's a desktop app, so isn't the (Spring) DAO overkill??? (I also  
> don't have enough time...)
> Is it necessary to use a DAO? Is the iBATIS DAO out-of-date because  
> it isn't under development anymore?
> I don't like the MVC solution we've seen in the Java lessons -  
> manually writing a Connection class, and Mapper classes (Prepared  
> and Callable statements)
> ...but I also don't really know how to fill in the gap between Swing  
> (view) and the sqlmaps + beans...
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> A desperate ;-) student
> Greeting, PieterB

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